• Jumi@lemmy.world
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    That would be so cool if I could visit Canada without any visa or other shit.

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    Our borders are sound, and we’re not at war.

    We have a land border with Denmark and a Sea border with France.

    Let’s go !

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    Okay everyone, time to get started working on a Eurovision entry.

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      I mean, arguably, conditions permitting, you don’t necessarily need to be an actual, full fledged member of anything to participate. But in any case, yes, please do, we need new blood.

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      Eurovision is organized by the european broadcasting union, not the european union.

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    Finally an option that doesn’t involve “negotiating” with a dementia-ridden publicity whore. I’d vote YES!!!

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    The US offers sheer strength, but can no longer be counted on for security or reliability. The Canadian government is smart for examining their options.

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    Sehr interessant!

    I’m not sure how the EU charter works for geographic limits, but Canada would be a phenomenal addition to the market, especially since the US is about to blow up NAFTA and other trade agreements with Canada and Mexico.

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      If I’m not mistaken, per article 49 of the Treaty on European Union, it can’t.

      Any European State which respects the values referred to in Article 2 and is committed to promoting them may apply to become a member of the Union. The European Parliament and national Parliaments shall be notified of this application. The applicant State shall address its application to the Council, which shall act unanimously after consulting the Commission and after receiving the consent of the European Parliament, which shall act by a majority of its component members. The conditions of eligibility agreed upon by the European Council shall be taken into account.

      The conditions of admission and the adjustments to the Treaties on which the Union is founded, which such admission entails, shall be the subject of an agreement between the Member States and the applicant State. This agreement shall be submitted for ratification by all the contracting States in accordance with their respective constitutional requirements.

      For example, Morocco tried applying, but was rejected because it wasn’t considered an “European State”. So, from my point of view, either EU amends the article to allow non-European countries to join (maybe on the basis of cultural similarities? anyways, I don’t think it’s even feasible), or an special agreement/set of agreements to integrate it in the EU without actually making it part of the EU.

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    I literally screamed OH SHIT! as I saw this

    As a Canadian I feel like this would be such a huge win for us.

    Gonna be real the NAFTA 2.0/USMCA trade agreement seems shaky at best, horrendously unstable at worst so maintaining current trade relations doesn’t seem sustainable unfortunately.

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    This would be a nightmare for Canada. Their regulations are all aligned with the US. Products would need to be adjusted, processes would need to be changed, entire product stocks would need to be offloaded. And it would make lots of Canadian products unexportable to the US.

    Even something as simple as eggs have incompatible regulations in Europe and North America.

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      Am American, would love Canada to go to EU standards and have America suffer of follow suit.

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        Yeah, I was thinking that, if Canada’s standards are so similar to the US’s, the problem is adjusting to the new ones, and not the difference between them per se.

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          There is a UKCA standard that has likely aligned some of Canada’s goods with EU regulation (given the UK’s current close alignment to EU regs).

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      Products would need to be adjusted

      O no what a nightmare

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        When your economy is geared to exporting mostly to a country that will not accept products made according to the new rules it is.

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      Well washing the natural protection layers off from eggs and then having to cool them is pretty stupid, so it’s obvious who should adjust their standards

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        similarly stupid is not washing the eggs and then still refrigerating them because people assume it’s necessary because they see it in stuff from the USA even though it wasn’t like that for their entire life and everything was fine

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      For the regulations, I think slowly changing them to fit to EU standards, so industries can catch up, would be the best.

      As for exports towards the US, aren’t there already institutions (like the Trade and Technology Council) used by US and EU for trade to be efficient despite regulation and standard diferences?

      Of course, I don’t much about anything, so I’m mostly throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

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        The problem with slowly is that a Canadian membership is being discussed as an answer to Trump threat to torpedo the western economy during this year. It would be more productive to focus on what trade agreements can be done in that timeframe instead of focusing on a goal that would take decades.

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          I didn’t even think about that one as an effective barrier to trade. That would be a shit show of epic proportions. The most realistic solution would be to make all products dual voltage to protect the single market, either directly or through a transformer in their power cable, but that would increase costs for everyone.

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          Retooling the entire country would be a shit show at best, and prohibitively expensive, so they’d likely stay at their current spec. Also, energy trade is quite profitable, and for geographic regions it makes sense to keep standards aligned.

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            It’s not about selling electricity, it’s about having a single market for electrical devices. There’s no single market if most products don’t work in one country. Even different AC plugs are only allowed because adapters are cheap and using different plugs for Ireland and Italy is a minor change in the production line.

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              You do realize that many companies offer multiple or variable power supplies addressing different input voltages and frequencies, right? Most consumer electronics are functionally identical, they just have a varying types of charging cable mains adapters. Larger appliances and tools are a different story, but more manufacturers are offering variability in their equipment.

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              It’s theoretically possible with HVDC (high voltage direct current), as the AC -> DC -> AC transmission conversion allows linked grids to not have their AC waves synced, though that distance would probably be stretching the boundaries of distance.