A new bid to place a measure on the ballot that would ask California voters to approve the state's secession from the U.S. has been cleared for signature gathering.
Please don’t, at least not without other states. Cali leaving would hand the Republicans even greater control of the House and screw over the other blue states.
If California successfully left (trying that didn’t work so well that one time), then I see Oregon and Washington joining. That bloc probably wouldn’t spread further east, though. Too many red states in the way. Texas would probably also secede because honestly I think the only thing keeping them from doing so now is the precedent that it’s not possible. New York would talk about it, but it wouldn’t pass. Minnesota might talk to Canada about joining them, but they probably like their guns too much to actually go through with it.
Nevada isn’t just Vegas. There’s a big values dissonance between Vegas and the rural North, and if the country starts fracturing I don’t see them staying together.
I could actually see Vegas seceding from Nevada to either join with California or become an independent city-state.
Fallout: New Vegas would become real, in other words.
Yeah, to me this seems like another variation of that movement that’s constantly trying to get California to pass a bill to split it into multiple states. Which, wouldn’t you know, just happens to favor the Republicans!
They want to do gerrymandering but by creating new states instead of within a state. They want to make the population centers their own states and make multiple states out of the rural areas, which vote as red as some red states. Which is just a convoluted way of adding more Republican senators.
Ah, the last realistic map I saw was the norcal, socal, eastcal one not the GOP wet dream one since there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of that one passing the assembly
I could be wrong but I had thought I read that it was the same chucklefucks behind both variations, if that’s the one that came up for vote… I don’t even remember how long ago, time is meaningless now.
Please don’t, at least not without other states. Cali leaving would hand the Republicans even greater control of the House and screw over the other blue states.
California leaving would absolutely start a chain reaction of other states.
If California successfully left (trying that didn’t work so well that one time), then I see Oregon and Washington joining. That bloc probably wouldn’t spread further east, though. Too many red states in the way. Texas would probably also secede because honestly I think the only thing keeping them from doing so now is the precedent that it’s not possible. New York would talk about it, but it wouldn’t pass. Minnesota might talk to Canada about joining them, but they probably like their guns too much to actually go through with it.
Canadians have tons of guns. We just have reasonable laws.
Nevada is pretty red but they’d bail for anyone offering better gambling laws.
Nevada isn’t just Vegas. There’s a big values dissonance between Vegas and the rural North, and if the country starts fracturing I don’t see them staying together.
I could actually see Vegas seceding from Nevada to either join with California or become an independent city-state.
Fallout: New Vegas would become real, in other words.
Guess I better start building my gauss rifle and riot gear…
Yeah come with us!
Aka a civil war
Yeah, to me this seems like another variation of that movement that’s constantly trying to get California to pass a bill to split it into multiple states. Which, wouldn’t you know, just happens to favor the Republicans!
Uh, does it? Last time I did that math the outcome was a 2:1 advantage for Dems
They want to do gerrymandering but by creating new states instead of within a state. They want to make the population centers their own states and make multiple states out of the rural areas, which vote as red as some red states. Which is just a convoluted way of adding more Republican senators.
Ah, the last realistic map I saw was the norcal, socal, eastcal one not the GOP wet dream one since there’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of that one passing the assembly
I could be wrong but I had thought I read that it was the same chucklefucks behind both variations, if that’s the one that came up for vote… I don’t even remember how long ago, time is meaningless now.
Split California in half. Or thirds.
Now it’s a few regular-sized states with more Senators