so glad we saved the Gazans from kamala harris. glad we did that
If you think Kamala would have done anything different, you’ve lost the plot.
If she would’ve not made anything different, how was this then a reason to vote orange?
I mean Mister T makes a lot things worse than, I suppose, Kamala would have, especially within USA (makes live harder for minorities, gives too much power to cooperations, doesn’t do what he says / says anything he believes wants to be heard no matter the facts, tear families appart, etc.)
Or have I understood something wrong?
It’s a reason to sit out the election, which is moreso what happened. Democrats lost about 11mil voters, Republicans lost 3mil. Numbers might be off given some fraction has been counted. General concept is solid.
I see the result as more “left” people of them who know the USA election are awful, are to dumb to see that they make it even worse by not voting (since in a 2 party setup not voting = voting for the other)
I see a bigger chance in fixing democracy without violence with dems in power compared to with rebs in power.
But this is just a view from an outsider.
since in a 2 party setup not voting = voting for the other
Sick, so my non-vote for Trump was a vote for Kamala. And my non-vote for Kamala was a vote for Trump!
Looks like I’m so cool I’m doing election fraud! (I voted PSL fwiw).
Liberals are so funny thinking the system isn’t geared fully towards capital interest and there’s a chance you can bend it to work at the behest of workers is so funny. You’re adorable.
I think that line of thinking either heavy cope or just bad faith politics circl jerk,
if you vote for my guy, the genocide would be less bad 🤡
What’s the Kremlin like?
I said they would be the same on Israel/Palestine (or mostly indistinguishable anyway), not claiming one would be better or worse there.
You won’t win people over by blaming voters sitting this one out for not co-signing a geonicide.
100%
What’s the Kremlin like?
What’s being a bot like?
Seems like repeating nonsense propaganda created to directly mislead is more bot behavior.
Kamala was going to do so much for Palestine, I’m glad Americans were willing to trade Palestinian lives to save themselves at home from Trump.
What exactly was she going to do? The only campaign promise I heard from her was that she was already “tirelessly working for a ceasefire”, which they had been doing for over a year.
And saying that she wouldn’t restrict arms to Israel.
And saying we need to have the most lethal military multiple times.
All the while constantly campaigning so I don’t know where all this ‘tireless work’ was.
What’s the Kremlin like?
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Sho nit trick dacy!
Remember when all the bots and trolls put all their energy into saying don’t vote for Kamala because of what she might not do for Palestine? REMEMBER THAT SHIT??
People stayed home and let any possibility for a two-states solution evaporate. I’m sure they’re glad to move the discussion towards turning Gaza into a Trump resort.
Any chance for a two state solution has been dead for decades, and everyone knows it.
The Israelis have intentionally carved up Palestinian territories with the explicit goal of making a viable state impossible, and they passed that point long ago.
Politicians talking about a two state solution have just been lying to you.
The only viable solution is a one state solution, and that one state would be majority Muslim.
That’s why the Zionists are so dead set on committing genocide and ethnic cleansing; it’s the only way Israel will actually still exist with its current form of government 50+ years from now.
The alternative is a state where the majority of people are not Jewish so the state itself can’t be tied to Judaism unless the majority are being subjected by a minority, and that is not sustainable.
I believe a state where religion and politics are separated would be awesome…
I hate religion
Only war, drama and sadness spawns from that shit…
This is why neighbor countries haven’t taken in refugees:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September
If it was as easy as taking in refugees, this would have been solved 50 years ago.
They shouldn’t have to leave their homes and homeland because some westerners want to ethnically cleanse them from the land.
They absolutely shouldn’t. The entire premise where Israel took Palestinians land by violence should have been stopped 60 years ago.
But if Palestinians want to leave, they should have a place to go. But neighboring countries won’t allow it.
This is the same plan Biden had.
This is what the israel going to do… It doesn’t matter what some cuck in a white house has to say.
Israel is calling shots
Except they can only do this with us military backing. If the US didn’t back Israel when Iran attacked, Palestine would currently be the only country in that territory.
That is true but it does not change that US behaves as a junior alliance partner vis-a-vis Israel. This could flip and like will once boomers start die off properly but AIPAC lobby is strong so time will tell.
well, leftists/ squad progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala, so they didn’t vote. with literally everything at stake, having already lost things like federally protected safe abortion access. you know who did turn out, young people, arab americans, and latino americans who voted for trump, think that made up ~ 2.3% and the differece between the young people who didn’t vote democrat and the “new republicans” tilted the balance in the swing states? nah, probably not, right. do they call that a phyrric victory? no that’s egyptian. anyway, congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year, chanting “from the river to the sea”. i wonder if that scared the bezeezus outta just middle america or all of it. nah, probably had nothing to do with it. anyway, enjoy your victory over “genocide joe” (kamala) folks
i marched and everyone i talked to in person was adamant that their goal was to shift kamala left, not to shift the election toward trump. i get your anger about the election, but don’t let the terminally online color what those protestors really wanted. they’re also now the most organized resistance against trump. they’re still working, even under threat of violence from the national guard. they’re heroes, not villains
That is good to hear, USA needs an up to date constitution, like a complete refactoring
I don’t see blue nor red changing the political landscape or even a tiny bit in the constitution, so it has to be the people, I fear.
There must be a way for the people of USA to vote for a change in constitution, here in switzerland, it is called an initiative. If enough people sign to approve that initiative, there will be a nation wide vote, where the majority of the people and the majority of the cantons (states) approves this initiative.
Yeah, fuck the terminally online twats who pushed ‘both sides are the same’, but anti-genocide protesters were not inherently contributors to the outcome we received. They were a voice of conscience to a nation that was still not ready to heed it. Unfortunately.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
The consequences were known, and they’ve arrived
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Hey I voted for her so hard in the emergency primary.
Me too. Thanks Democrats for having that primary instead of anointing the unpopular President’s VP.
It was her turn though. Man the butt hurt crying when I suggested she was Hillary 2.0. bans and slurs I was a Russian or right winger. I will tell you this it doesn’t feel good to be right, I’m too old for this shit. On the other hand dems are still clueless why they lost.
Yeah… being a rational critical thinker is isolating. It’s always interesting though, especially when Democrats call you a Nazi for not agreeing with them, ban you & tell you they hope you get your head caved in. I wonder if they’ll ever take responsibility for their own actions, or if we’ll always just be Russian Nazi bots to them.
Duudes! Exactly that thinking is the demise of USA. It is not just us and them, there is not just black and white, not all democrats are the same, not all republicans are the same, not all of those people should be in the same party with such different views.
No wonder you get just extremists in your political system…
Split those fucking parties, best each in about 10 pieces.
well, progressives did tell all the young democrats not to vote for Joe/Kamala
Bullshit. “Progressives” did no such thing. Progressives are the most loyal and reliable voting base in American politics, with even more consistency than “Bible and flag” conservatives. Progressives also make up the bulk of grassroots Democratic activism and do most of the volunteer work for Democratic candidates. That is despite being shit on constantly, just like you are doing now. Democrats don’t deserve progressive votes, but they have them.
congratulations to everyone who marched on every major us city, and took over campus commons across the nation in the spring and summer of an election year…
Maybe Joe and Kamala shouldn’t have been supporting a genocide in “an election year”. It’s funny how you baselessly blame progressives while putting no blame whatsoever on the candidates themselves! It’s so incredibly fucked that Biden thought he could run again and that Kamala didn’t even seek the appearance of being democratically nominated. We lost to Trump because of gross incompetence on the part of Democratic leadership.
