I mean… I kinda get it, but nowadays it’s starting to get absurd.

(EDIT: This was supposed to be a “blow air out my nose and get on with my life” meme…)

  • StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org
    127·
    1 day ago

    Tradition is big. E.g TCM crap over science

    You cannot disagree with the state

    Stokes fear and hatred of outsiders

    Blames social frustrations on those outsiders

    Appeals to restore past glory

    Han ethnic supremacy

    You could go through all of Eco’s points and apply them to China pretty fittingly.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
      1·
      6 hours ago

      Appeals to restore past glory

      Genuinely, what on earth are you talking about? China’s past is full of poverty, humiliation, and exploitation, literally, “The century of humiliation!” The only people who “appeal to restore past glory” are the CIA-funded Shen Yun performances romanticizing “China before communism.” The Chinese people I talk to will specifically point to the Qing as a clear demonstration of the danger of clinging to tradition and the necessity of adapting and looking forward.

      China literally had a cultural revolution seeking to abolish tradition. I expect you would call that fascist just as you call if fascist whenever some people still follow tradition, after all:

      “During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime’s atheistic ideology… What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      21·
      17 hours ago

      You cannot disagree with the state

      Technically you could make thinly-veiled criticisms against local governments, but just not the central government or Xi Jingping

      Or you can talk shit about the government behind closed doors, there are no telescreens like Orwell’s 1984.

      TCM crap over science

      That shit is fucking annoying. My mom keep telling me anti-depressants are bad 😓

    • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlEnglish
      74·
      1 day ago

      Been on xiaohongshu for a while now and the chinese netizens I interacted with were nothing but kind to foreigners even when we treated them like shit.

        • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlEnglish
          103·
          1 day ago

          Many of them use VPNs to get around firewalls and I speak with them aswell on other platforms. I am learning mandarin and it is quite helpful. I don’t like everypart of their society, there is still some of misogyny and homophobia that makes me uncomfortable but I have seen worse here. The people of xiaohongshu are actually making great strides to combat this and I applaud them. I have probably spoken candidly with people from every major city. What makes you think people without global internet are inherently more reactionary. Wouldn’t their views be reflected in the people that have that access as well? If it is so nation wide?

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
      22·
      1 day ago

      Ok what about Robert Paxton’s? Those are a lot better thought out as his actual focus is fascism rather than it being a side gig like it is for Eco.