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  • The Snark Urge@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    You consider it even remotely appropriate to let an insurrectionist stand for election? A literal traitor to the republic? Allowing him on the ballot was, I think, a crucial failure of democratic norms. One of many.

    Just as legality is not the same as morality, winning an election in a critically dysfunctional democracy is not a mandate to rule as a king.

    They’re beginning to learn, too late, that the only thing keeping democracy in America is its norms. Voters were offered an insane question that should never have been asked.

    • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      Biden isn’t responsible for any of that though. The courts should have stopped Trump nothis oppenent in the election

      edit: To all thinking Biden could or should have directly intervened to prevent Trump from running how do you think he can legally do so without being seen as a dictator?

      • big_slap@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        by not giving a shit about optics in the same way he bailed his son out. who cares if people see him as a dictator?

        • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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          1 hour ago

          Pardoning his son from witch-hunts by the GOP isn’t dictatorial.Legally preventing the opposition from running candidates is absolutely dictatorial.

      • piccolo
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        2 hours ago

        The CIA has toppled democracies around the world. So its bullshit to say the president has his hands tied…

        • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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          2 hours ago

          If a leader utilizes the intelligence agencies to put down opposition politicians then they are an authoritarian dictator. Biden isn’t that stupid.

          • piccolo
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            2 hours ago

            Youre right. Should just let a traitor waltz in and be the authoritarian dictator. We’ll just put Biden in the history book beside Hindenburg.

            • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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              1 hour ago

              So your solution to prevent an authoritarian dictatorship is for Biden to become an authoritarian dictator?

              Te courts are the check against this.

              • piccolo
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                1 hour ago

                The same courts that gave immunity to the president for “official acts”?

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                    38 minutes ago

                    Being a poltical opposition shouldnt be a shield from consequences. Anyone else, he would have been labeled a terrorist and sent off to gitmo. But i guess US has always been a veil democracy anyway, so im not really suprised once the remaining illusions eroded away.

      • liyunxiao
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        2 hours ago

        Biden decided a longer than 4 year investigation without charges was the move. If smith filed charges on some, but not all the crimes Trump committed, courts would have had something to go off of to bar him from running.

          • liyunxiao
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            1 hour ago

            Except it wouldn’t be, since he was not a political opponent after jan 6th. He also absolutely had a role, the idea the head of the executive branch doesn’t control the doj is and always has been an open lie. The existence of pot shops in legal states is the most obvious proof of that.

            • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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              57 minutes ago

              The elected leader in a democratic republic like the USA cannot stop candidates from running without becoming a dictator. This is intro level poli sci stuff.

              There is a difference between permitting states to decriminalize cannabis and electoral interference.

              • liyunxiao
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                38 minutes ago

                They actually can, it’s called doing their job and charging the individual with high crimes against the US that they’ve committed. There’s no difference between a presidential candidate and a citizen.

                • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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                  22 minutes ago

                  No it isn’t. It is inappropriate for any candidate to utilize their office to prevent opposition. That is how authoritarian societies work not democratic republics. You should have been taught this in secondary/high school (ages 14-18 if you aren’t American).

                  How would you react if Trump had banned Bernie Sanders ir Biden from running in 2020 over perceived charges? Do you not see how easily misused that power would be?

                  The DOJ lead by the USAG should handle the prosecution without input from POTUS. That is what happened.

                  What you are suggesting is the kind of clownish fantasy that would get you laughed out of any courtroom. That’s how failed democracies work. That is not how systems should work. You are literally advocating corruption.

                  • liyunxiao
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                    19 minutes ago

                    Advocating for suspected criminals to face charges and go to trial in a timely manner is authoritarian.

                    Well that’s just absolutely ridiculous. I sincerely hope you understand this is why Trump won and why the US won’t exist by the end of the decade. Please don’t fuck up something so simple in your next country.