There is much speculation on whether President Trump will simply refuse to comply with judicial orders. There’s the famous line of Andrew Jackson, “The court has made their ruling, let them enforce it.” JD Vance recently tweeted that he does not believe Musk’s rogue DOGE agency should be subject to judicial review. The writer behind a lot of the philosophy of Trump and Vance, Curtis Yarvin, advocates that the president should simply ignore court orders and do what he wills. Many have lamented that if this were the case, that there is nothing the Supreme Court could do. That they would simply be powerless, and that the only hope would be that the military would step in.

But I can think of an option for such a scenario that I haven’t heard discussed anywhere. If a president openly defies a direct order by a Supreme Court, could the court then call upon the ancient common law tradition of a Writ of Outlawry?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaw

In common parlance, we use the term “outlaw” to refer to someone that is simply a criminal or on the run from the law. But traditionally it was something a lot more specific. Back in ancient days where it was much more difficult to track down fugitives, courts would declare those who refused to subject themselves to the court’s process as “outlaws.” They literally were declared as outside the protection from the law. It was then legal for literally anyone to do whatever they wanted to that person, and they would face no legal penalties whatsoever. An outlaw could literally be killed, and their killer would face no penalties. The philosophy was that if someone was going to refuse to subject themselves to the law, then they did not deserve the protection of the law.

Could this be the answer to Jackson’s quip? Ultimately the Supreme Court determines the working of the justice system. If a court rules that no lower court can hold someone accountable for crimes against someone, then anyone could harm that person with impunity.

Could this be a final and ultimate option for the Supreme Court to hold a rogue president accountable? Give the president plenty of chances and fair warning. But if the president simply refuses to abide by the court’s rulings, then the court could activate this ancient tradition and declare them an outlaw. It would then be completely legal for anyone to do whatever they wanted to the president, including the Secret Service agents that surround him at all times. Could the Supreme Court rein in a lawless president by simply declaring that president outside of the law’s protection?

  • hansolo@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    While T and Vance like to talk big about this, they have fallen quite short of “crossing the Rubicon” and actually doing anything close to this.

    A T45-appointed judge issued the Temporary Restraining Order for the USAID admin leave action, and if you read the ruling, the T47 team provides zero evidence, legal justification, or even coherent thought at any point. Their case was entirely “well…but we wanna.” And the judge’s ruling has made them take a step back and do thing the legal way.

    T47 doesn’t have a solid partner in Congress due to a thin margin, so there’s no hope of them retroactively covering the legal aspects of hebbulldozes a mess. The courts still haven’t given him freedom to do everything he wants, and for now his people are actually listening to that.