A few months after Rexodus, Kbin.social shut down, and even before that dmv.social running Lemmy software did as well, due to the waves of CSAM (just prior to the automated protections) - here is their goodbye message. For non-technical people especially, it can be really worrisome to potentially lose out on everything that they have built when a server chooses to go down.
It’s not just that though: if you consider the needs of an actual content creator, even if not fully a self-styled “influencer” but like a step or two towards that I mean, they want to retain a method of keeping in contact with their followers. i.e. they want an address that people can bookmark and share with others, where they can remain reachable. Especially for X/Twitter migrating to Mastodon or Bluesky, but also for Reddit to Lemmy as well.
Coming to the Fediverse for them means having to learn how to self-host their own space. Which creative people tend to not want to do, even as technical people tend to be less creative in turn:-).
Ofc I’m not saying that Discord is a good answer to that issue - it’s decidedly not in fact, as it is not discoverable or searchable by the internet, and far worse in fact in requiring people to create an account and join a server to even see the content (iirc?). But I can see why they would at least consider it, when Lemmy’s stability is questionable to them.
Perhaps the best answer then would be to trot out the top 10-20 instances and report how many years they’ve remained open. Reddit itself was newer at some point, when people first switched to it.
Did reddit have influencers in the typical social media sense? I never noticed them in my communities. There were content creators obviously and some were more active sure, but still anonymous. Maybe some guerilla marketers but I don’t think the communities were generally driven by those the way other social media platforms are driven by influencers.
Probably not, though it has actual celebrities doing things like AMAs. Though I meant more like smaller time content creators offering their artwork. e.g. the Nathan Pyle comics are quite well-known, but would they remain so if the author posted exclusively to Lemmy and/or Mastodon and/or Friendica, but no longer to Reddit or X or Facebook? We might get the reposts here, but the actual content creators themselves go to where the audience is waiting to receive their works.
So if they became known by a certain handle, on let’s say kbin.social, and then they switched to DMV.social, and then they kept switching around to other places - except sometimes people try to impersonate them and already jump out ahead of them and grab their username on some other instance, … that’s not quite as ideal for their needs. Which helps explain why content creators gravitate towards more “stable” platforms that require less work to set up and stay on then e.g. having to self-host your own instance.
A few months after Rexodus, Kbin.social shut down, and even before that dmv.social running Lemmy software did as well, due to the waves of CSAM (just prior to the automated protections) - here is their goodbye message. For non-technical people especially, it can be really worrisome to potentially lose out on everything that they have built when a server chooses to go down.
Yup, that’s why we guide them to better practices, or try to. Back-up, back-up back-up.
It’s a legit concern, but one with a legit solution.
It’s not just that though: if you consider the needs of an actual content creator, even if not fully a self-styled “influencer” but like a step or two towards that I mean, they want to retain a method of keeping in contact with their followers. i.e. they want an address that people can bookmark and share with others, where they can remain reachable. Especially for X/Twitter migrating to Mastodon or Bluesky, but also for Reddit to Lemmy as well.
Coming to the Fediverse for them means having to learn how to self-host their own space. Which creative people tend to not want to do, even as technical people tend to be less creative in turn:-).
Ofc I’m not saying that Discord is a good answer to that issue - it’s decidedly not in fact, as it is not discoverable or searchable by the internet, and far worse in fact in requiring people to create an account and join a server to even see the content (iirc?). But I can see why they would at least consider it, when Lemmy’s stability is questionable to them.
Perhaps the best answer then would be to trot out the top 10-20 instances and report how many years they’ve remained open. Reddit itself was newer at some point, when people first switched to it.
Did reddit have influencers in the typical social media sense? I never noticed them in my communities. There were content creators obviously and some were more active sure, but still anonymous. Maybe some guerilla marketers but I don’t think the communities were generally driven by those the way other social media platforms are driven by influencers.
Probably not, though it has actual celebrities doing things like AMAs. Though I meant more like smaller time content creators offering their artwork. e.g. the Nathan Pyle comics are quite well-known, but would they remain so if the author posted exclusively to Lemmy and/or Mastodon and/or Friendica, but no longer to Reddit or X or Facebook? We might get the reposts here, but the actual content creators themselves go to where the audience is waiting to receive their works.
So if they became known by a certain handle, on let’s say kbin.social, and then they switched to DMV.social, and then they kept switching around to other places - except sometimes people try to impersonate them and already jump out ahead of them and grab their username on some other instance, … that’s not quite as ideal for their needs. Which helps explain why content creators gravitate towards more “stable” platforms that require less work to set up and stay on then e.g. having to self-host your own instance.