Summary
Germany’s defense minister, Boris Pistorius, criticized the U.S. for making concessions to Russia before peace talks, particularly ruling out NATO membership for Ukraine and accepting territorial losses.
His concerns were echoed by France’s defense minister, Sébastien Lecornu.
Trump’s recent call with Putin sparked European opposition, with key nations reaffirming their support for Ukraine’s sovereignty.
The Kremlin welcomed Trump’s stance, while Ukraine maintained its NATO aspirations.
Unpopular opinion: any peace treaty with Russia is going to require Ukraine giving up land. Russia is already occupying it and the Ukraine can’t retake it, especially if US aid goes away. There needs to be a material change in the war to get Russia to agree to fuck off, it’s not going to be the US getting involved, and I doubt the EU is willing either.
Yes, but talk to your allies first and don’t make unnecessary concessions.
How can trump take all the credit if he asks others first?
‘The art of the deal’
Remember the west giving hitler czechoslovakia before ww2? No? Then go fucking read about it.
Allowing russia to win and then go back to their shithole to breed more cannon fodder is a recipe for another war in a couple of years.
You don’t need to go back that far. It literally happened when they let Russia take Crimea in 2014. You let them take Luhansk and Kherson now, and they’ll be taking Odesa and Dnipro by 2034.
It’s going to take someone to stop them though, which there doesn’t appear to be anyone willing at the moment.