• Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
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    22 hours ago

    TIL about her brothers doing this:

    Following Joan’s execution, several young women came forward claiming to be her. In 1434, Pierre and Jéan temporarily accepted Jeanne des Armoises (whose real name was Claude) as the actual Joan. Over the next six years, the brothers and their supposed sister traveled from town to town, beginning at Orléans, receiving lavish gifts from Joan’s many admirers, among them, Princess Elizabeth of Luxembourg (1390–1451), and Elisabeth von Görlitz, widow of Prince Anton of Burgundy. Then Claude made the mistake of meeting with Charles VII of France in Paris. Unable to tell him a secret Joan had told him - which proved to Charles that Joan had been sent by God to defeat the English - Claude confessed to the subterfuge, and begged the king’s forgiveness.

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      I don’t know much about her or her family life, but kinda sad that she spent her life theoretically devoted to the church and then her brothers go around committing sins in her name. I’m not religious, and imho get that bag or whatever, but it comes off as a pretty cold thing to do.

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        13 minutes ago

        ‘Sin’ is a very relative term to time (in years/decades) and religion (time & locality in prob municipalities), so maybe it wasn’t.

        (It also depends how they were doing it - on one hand they could have done much the same with a statue of her, even if she wasn’t a saint yet or in fact the opposite.)

        Maybe her wearing man clothes was a bigger “sin” as perceived at the time.

        Religion (and “sin”) is stil just people, so politics, not even religious texts, but literally intra-people politics.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it wasn’t shady, I’m just pointing out the possibility of it not registering on any sin level scale.
        (Also both of them fought under her command.)

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    Think this title is supposed to end with “and in poor health”

    She passed away two years after getting Joan’s name cleared.