• Carmakazi@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    We have a voting system right now.

    In two years time we likely will not.

    We have political parties right now.

    In the same sense that we still had a Titanic while its stern was hundreds of feet in the air.

    You are playing yesterday’s game. You need to recognize the dire danger in front of you, and prepare and act accordingly.

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      2 days ago

      I disagree, which is why I’m interested to hear what “today’s game” consists of.

      You’re saying “resistance demonstrations”, right. Is that it?

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        You need to look at what has successfully caused the overthrow of dictators over the centuries, consider what tools and options you have available to you and act accordingly.

        Given Agent Orange is speed running through the Hitler playbook for removing democratic institutions I agree with the other poster, it is near enough certain that the mid terms won’t be free&fair. They will definitely be rigged.

        Your chance of fixing this at the ballotbox is near enough zero. You need to look at what has worked (Maidan revolution for example) and what didn’t work (resistance in Germany to Hitler) then decide on what you can do.

        If you elect to pin your hopes on a democratic resolution to a fascist dictator you will be disappointed.

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          Okay but do you have any suggestions other than “do research”.

          Cause I’m pretty sure that’s not going to work in any scaled way, like voting would.

          So far the people who don’t seem to be onboard with preparing for midterms have suggested:

          • Look up what’s worked in history and try that
          • resistance demonstrations

          neither of those seem particularly well-formed or understood. So I’m back to saying we should prepare for the midterms unless someone can elaborate.

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            So basically you’re too lazy to do a bit of reading and make a plan ? You want someone to lay it out for you ?

            Either take control of your life or don’t whine that “nobody told me” when you get sent to a camp.

            Continuing to do what is proven not to work is insanity. “Maybe this time it will work”

            I’m not am American, I’m not going to tell you what the right course of action is, nor am I about to do your planning for you.

            Are you looking to change this or just to be able to say “well I tried” after putting in limited ineffectual effort ?

            Be aware, all the passive political campaigners in Germany ended up in camps or shot. It’s not the “safe” option you seem to think it is

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              1 day ago

              I’m not am American

              No fucking shit. I wondered if the useless suggestions were an artifact of ignorant self-righteousness.

              So basically you’re too lazy to do a bit of reading and make a plan ? You want someone to lay it out for you ?

              What country are you from.

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                  Holy shit, it’s you!

                  My dude. You’re just not grokking the American people. Look at your example. Look at it:

                  Are we winning yet?

                  I’d like to thank everyone for my most upvoted post on lemmy ever. Not only have you upvoted it to the top for like 2 days you commented the shit out of it. I’d like to take this opportunity to say fuck the mods of this instance. This was my second post coming off a 30 day ban and I want to say these fucking mods have been nothing but bitches. I’ve never been more attacked on any other instance, subreddit, forum, etc. then I have been in this fucking instance. Not only have I been attacked I’ve been told my memes arent memey enough again and again.

                  I’ll be honest, I do not know how to make a meme but I keep posting just to piss in these mods cheerios.

                  Thanks lemmy.world/politicalmemes for being the worst community I’ve ever been a part of.

                  So your guy here really thinks this is reddit. Like, his first concern is about how many upvotes he got. Then he throws a tantrum because the mods are “bitches”. Okay. So this thread is your great example of what we should do?

                  Violent revolution. Just say it. That’s what you want Americans to do. No need to be coy. You can say it. And that’s okay - I get that it would be fun to watch in the news. But that’s not likely for a few reasons. Not least of which is, a full frontal assault on the army is not likely to work.

                  And really, unless you’re here, on the back roads, you won’t understand it anyway. America must seem like a fictional story from reading about it and watching the crazy crap that’s always going on. That’s why actually living in it (or any country) is so different. Florida isn’t actually Florida as it is in the news. It’s better - and worse - but not the same at all.

                  So, outside of violent revolution, any other thoughts? I’m guessing no, which is fine. It’s our problem to work out isn’t it. Thanks for the input. Clearly there are some people who (are ostensibly American and who) think it’s a good idea.