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    That’s not the fear Bond fans have about Amazon having the franchise. The fear is they are going to make it cramp.

    Just get whoever it was that wrote the script for Kingsman to do the script for this. They know what James bond is about, goofy stupid stuff

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    I dunno if folks nowadays can remember how major Tula was for my generation.

    She was the first trans person most of us were aware of, she made the terminology of the time become known to folks that had no idea transition even existed, or that anyone might want it. And she did it with grace and style.

    It may seem crazy now, but the thing that sticks out to me most is how little people had a problem with her. I’m not saying it wasn’t there, but the reactions lacked the venom and sheer insane fervor that’s so common now. Like, even my redneck, ancient great aunt was all “t’ain’t natural, but don’t hurt nobody else if she ain’t got the sense to know that.”

    Seriously, that woman was not pleasant about a lot of things, and that’s the worst she had to say about it, and she called Tula she.

    There were whiners and haters, yeah, but it just didn’t have the craziness to it.

    It’s part of the reason the wave of hatred and rage towards trans people feels so artificial and off to me. I can’t really figure out how to express it right, but it feels fake in a way that the more grounded objections didn’t back then. Even the religious crazies weren’t as crazy about it.

    I’m grateful she stepped onto the world stage the way she did. I hope she knows how many people she inspired.

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      The “hatred” is definitely artificial, and absolutely fueled by propaganda.

      The trans community was just next in a long line of scapegoats.

      “Yeah, you life sucks, but its X’s fault, elect us and we’ll punish X”

      Replace X with one or more of Jews, African Americans, Welfare Queens, Loose Women, Gays, Trans, Coastal Elites, etc.

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      it became a tool once they understood how to weaponize ignorance and confusion into fear and anger

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    I feel like anyone who unironically complains about something being “woke” should be banished from the land. There’s no way that person is worth keeping around. They are certainly a net negative.

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    These are the same people who complain about Star Trek “suddenly going woke”

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      Star Trek just got stupid, that’s all. In the past, it promoted progressive views through clever writing where the audience could see our own actions from the perspective of people living in an utopian future.

      I’ve only seen Picard Seasons 1 & 3 tho, so maybe the other shows were better, but I’m not interested in prequels and that’s all anyone wants to make. S3 was basically the same as the Star Wars sequel trilogy which I’m fine with. But S1 though… that had a message that equity isn’t possible in even an ideal utopia, and bigotry (really really stupid bigotry at that) will always exist. I’m sure that wasn’t the intention, but the writers couldn’t help but put in rants about how unfair the world is and how terrible bigotry is… in a setting that’s far into the future and supposed to be a utopia. Which makes the overall message to be that equity is impossible and bigotry will always exist.

      The writers didn’t seem to understand that the premise of Star Trek is and it resulted in a message I don’t think they knew they were making.

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    Excluding the obviously evil things people are using against “wokism,” every time I hear someone bitching about something being “woke” these days I can’t help but picture a racist boomer that’s scared of change, except now it’s the next generation taking the initiative. Just like violence in video games in the 90s, Rock N’ Roll in the 80s, the devils lettuce in the 70s, and hippies in the 60s. All the way back to when parents were saying their kids were reading too many books or listening to too much radio back in the 1800s and early 1900s. It’s literally always the older generations that are upset that things are changing and not staying exactly as they were when they were young. And this only reinforces the notion that we need more younger people making decisions and not just the same old white dude that started the company back I’m the 90s.

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    Very strong “I’m not racist, I have a black friend” vibes from this article. One actress 50 years ago is hardly progress.

    Rather than trying to redeem/rewrite 007, why not spin off a new character instead. Might take some effort and skilled writing, but Amazon have money right?

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        I appreciate the Bond series as legend, but my partner and I couldn’t face any more movies portraying the same icky encounters as in the first Casino Royale. We just felt incredibly uncomfortable for the woman being taken advantage of by Bond.

        We loved the Daniel Craig films, though. Suitably modern.

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      And calling her a “Bond girl” is a bit of a stretch. Great that she was included but she’s not quite on the level of Melina Havelock or Countess Lisl von Schlaf in the movie.

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        She was included because she was stealth and no one knew. It only came out after the fact.

        Most trans people were invisible at the time. You either did all the surgeries, fully passed, and cut off everyone who knew you pre-transition, or you didn’t get get to live a normal life.

        She wasn’t there because the filmmakers wanted to be progressive.

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    I mean, I don’t know why a show that was showing rape as positive, sexy and wanted by women even still exists so…

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      I suspect many fans don’t want the franchise to end, and the rights-holders don’t want the cash cow to stop lactating. In a twisted way, capitalism bore money-obsessed folks who relentlessly rape marketable products for all their worth