Our EC votes here in WA went for the Harris. I told everyone who would listen offline and online in this state and in other states why we shouldn’t vote for Trump.
I am working or commuting to work 60 hours a week and we are losing our health insurance. I’m already scrambling. If I showed up in a city which 60%+ of the pop agrees with me and held a sign for a few hours it wouldn’t change a goddamn thing except get some honks and nods for sympathetic folks who also feel this way.
More than the probably unactionable threat of invading Canada I’m worried about the following in no particular order of importance.
Not being able to get meds for my sick wife
Health care collapsing in America
Our economy collapsing
A trade war with our neighbors and allies you know folks like Canada
People going hungry here
People dying of hunger overseas without the aid we used to provide
Vaccination and public health collapsing followed by potentially worse threats than covid like a deadly flu pandemic if the bird flu adapts to us well enough to explode without adapting enough to avoid massive fatalities. Note there is no reason to believe this would leave other countries unscathed
Ukraine being ground under Putin’s toes because they won’t give it and allies like us abandon them with millions dying and tens of millions living under occupation
Almost 2M of which half are children in Gaza being murdered in the course of driving them from their homes
Trump allowing Putin’s aggression to get way out of hand and then trying to play savior thus kick starting WW3
A nuclear apocalypse
Climate change being impossible to reverse because we are so far behind that it doesn’t matter what we do if we decide to make changes 20 years from now instead of today. Also factors that seem to suggest this may get much worse much faster than earlier thought like the amount of CO2 sequestered dropping off or the Clathrate gun hypothesis
Mirror life being way to attractive to stupid people as bio weapons to stupid people despite a host of scientists coming out against even peaceful research in that direction
Taiwan going to war with China and chip production dealing a further blow to the economy since it will take literal years for us to replace Taiwan for complex chips
Not being able to vote Trump out of power in 2026 2028 because they don’t let us
Trump rounding up millions of people into migrant camps but not being able to deport them very quickly leading to multi year detention of immigrants in hostile concentration camps that ultimately become death camps
Literally every issue here is more likely than us invading Canada. It’s not that I don’t care about Canada. It’s not that I don’t emphatically disagree with Canada’s treatment. I just can’t do a goddamn thing.
No one in Canada is asking to be your number one priority.
We just want you to get angry and do something about all of the problems being brought about the fascist dictator your country elected, instead of sitting around and wringing your hands about it.
If you guys can reign in Trump then Canada will be fine. But if you don’t then we’re all fucked, north and south of the border.
The difference is, you’re the ones in a position to stop him. We’re not.
This.
I’m not mad about USAmericans not standing up for Canada specifically.
I’m fucking mad at them for not standing up against literally anything else.
That they don’t care to defend Canada is whatever, but they don’t even care enough to defend themselves.
Forget about Canada, just stand up for your own fucking selves and we’ll be fine.
The problem is, it will require violence and loss of life from the proletariat to make a change at this point. Even the ones that are complaining are not willing to stand up for themselves, let alone anyone else.
I’m fighting on a digital front with my networking and development skills in various ways, and with my wallet and choices in other ways. However, I am beyond ready and itching to get down and dirty with these motherfuckers and start throwing punches. Every one around me just cowers into a, “well, it’s not really so bad yet, I just want to keep buying my [insert big company name product here].” They’ve lost the human ability to adapt and overcome. It’s fucking sad and depressing. I’ve tried so hard to light a fire under my “left-wing” friends that seemingly share in my misery, and I am always met with excuses.
When I make it to the front lines, I fear I will be alone.
It’s a lot easier when there’s nothing to be done, isn’t it? There’s no responsibility anymore. No call to action. Despair is simple. It doesn’t require you to do anything, it only requires that you feel bad.
What as a normal person is there to be done? I shall vote for local people who will resist Trump. I shall vote against Trump and if I’m not allowed to vote I’ll fight.
Great question. Step one is educating yourself on how to answer this question yourself, but better ask this of you local groups, I’m not from Seattle so can’t help you figure this out. But the short answer is to organize.
As the article pointed out, your fellow countrymen were willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on beer because a trans person drank some. I’d argue this could be considered a slightly more consequential issue.
I find it hilarious that you and I are being downvoted for being angry and wanting to do something more than just sit back by people in the comments that are saying, “we wish you americans would do something.”
Keep withholding your cash, fellow prole. We can only force our cowardly brethrens’ noses into their own shit and hope they get angry too. The only way for this to be non-violent is to completely withdraw ourselves from the system in all aspects and en masse. Take away their real power.
Just because he doing all that as well doesn’t mean he won’t get to it. Destroying things is easy work. Sometimes all it takes is not doing other things.
I wish I could just be a Canadian and worry about going to work and going to the doctor and normal risks and not whether I can even get care or if the country around me is going to collapse around me.
My kid’s daycare is right beside the military base in Kingston. This base is within artillery range of Fort Drum. There is a 100% chance she gets shelled during the opening salvo.
My wife and I have agreed upon a set of leading indicators to send my child to rural Cape Breton, and another set to send them to friends in Europe.
I will die at the border of this great nation, but my child’s life is not mine to forfeit.
I work in Seattle and live near it.
Our EC votes here in WA went for the Harris. I told everyone who would listen offline and online in this state and in other states why we shouldn’t vote for Trump.
I am working or commuting to work 60 hours a week and we are losing our health insurance. I’m already scrambling. If I showed up in a city which 60%+ of the pop agrees with me and held a sign for a few hours it wouldn’t change a goddamn thing except get some honks and nods for sympathetic folks who also feel this way.
More than the probably unactionable threat of invading Canada I’m worried about the following in no particular order of importance.
Not being able to get meds for my sick wife
Health care collapsing in America
Our economy collapsing
A trade war with our neighbors and allies you know folks like Canada
People going hungry here
People dying of hunger overseas without the aid we used to provide
Vaccination and public health collapsing followed by potentially worse threats than covid like a deadly flu pandemic if the bird flu adapts to us well enough to explode without adapting enough to avoid massive fatalities. Note there is no reason to believe this would leave other countries unscathed
Ukraine being ground under Putin’s toes because they won’t give it and allies like us abandon them with millions dying and tens of millions living under occupation
Almost 2M of which half are children in Gaza being murdered in the course of driving them from their homes
Trump allowing Putin’s aggression to get way out of hand and then trying to play savior thus kick starting WW3
A nuclear apocalypse
Climate change being impossible to reverse because we are so far behind that it doesn’t matter what we do if we decide to make changes 20 years from now instead of today. Also factors that seem to suggest this may get much worse much faster than earlier thought like the amount of CO2 sequestered dropping off or the Clathrate gun hypothesis
Mirror life being way to attractive to stupid people as bio weapons to stupid people despite a host of scientists coming out against even peaceful research in that direction
Taiwan going to war with China and chip production dealing a further blow to the economy since it will take literal years for us to replace Taiwan for complex chips
Not being able to vote Trump out of power in 2026 2028 because they don’t let us
Trump rounding up millions of people into migrant camps but not being able to deport them very quickly leading to multi year detention of immigrants in hostile concentration camps that ultimately become death camps
Literally every issue here is more likely than us invading Canada. It’s not that I don’t care about Canada. It’s not that I don’t emphatically disagree with Canada’s treatment. I just can’t do a goddamn thing.
No one in Canada is asking to be your number one priority.
We just want you to get angry and do something about all of the problems being brought about the fascist dictator your country elected, instead of sitting around and wringing your hands about it.
If you guys can reign in Trump then Canada will be fine. But if you don’t then we’re all fucked, north and south of the border.
The difference is, you’re the ones in a position to stop him. We’re not.
This.
I’m not mad about USAmericans not standing up for Canada specifically.
I’m fucking mad at them for not standing up against literally anything else.
That they don’t care to defend Canada is whatever, but they don’t even care enough to defend themselves.
Forget about Canada, just stand up for your own fucking selves and we’ll be fine.
The problem is, it will require violence and loss of life from the proletariat to make a change at this point. Even the ones that are complaining are not willing to stand up for themselves, let alone anyone else.
I’m fighting on a digital front with my networking and development skills in various ways, and with my wallet and choices in other ways. However, I am beyond ready and itching to get down and dirty with these motherfuckers and start throwing punches. Every one around me just cowers into a, “well, it’s not really so bad yet, I just want to keep buying my [insert big company name product here].” They’ve lost the human ability to adapt and overcome. It’s fucking sad and depressing. I’ve tried so hard to light a fire under my “left-wing” friends that seemingly share in my misery, and I am always met with excuses.
When I make it to the front lines, I fear I will be alone.
Basically the only realistic thing an individual could do that would have any effect would absolutely be violence.
It’s a lot easier when there’s nothing to be done, isn’t it? There’s no responsibility anymore. No call to action. Despair is simple. It doesn’t require you to do anything, it only requires that you feel bad.
What as a normal person is there to be done? I shall vote for local people who will resist Trump. I shall vote against Trump and if I’m not allowed to vote I’ll fight.
Great question. Step one is educating yourself on how to answer this question yourself, but better ask this of you local groups, I’m not from Seattle so can’t help you figure this out. But the short answer is to organize.
Democracy doesn’t happen only on Election Day.
As the article pointed out, your fellow countrymen were willing to exercise their 2nd amendment rights on beer because a trans person drank some. I’d argue this could be considered a slightly more consequential issue.
I’m not paying any money to fucks that bend over for Trump either. Buying and shooting the stuff I oppose is less effective than not buying it.
I find it hilarious that you and I are being downvoted for being angry and wanting to do something more than just sit back by people in the comments that are saying, “we wish you americans would do something.”
Keep withholding your cash, fellow prole. We can only force our cowardly brethrens’ noses into their own shit and hope they get angry too. The only way for this to be non-violent is to completely withdraw ourselves from the system in all aspects and en masse. Take away their real power.
Which might be what he wants. To declare a national emergency so he can send in the national guard on you guys.
Just because he doing all that as well doesn’t mean he won’t get to it. Destroying things is easy work. Sometimes all it takes is not doing other things.
I wish I could just be a Canadian and worry about going to work and going to the doctor and normal risks and not whether I can even get care or if the country around me is going to collapse around me.
You have literally no idea how terrifying it is to be us right now.
My kid’s daycare is right beside the military base in Kingston. This base is within artillery range of Fort Drum. There is a 100% chance she gets shelled during the opening salvo.
My wife and I have agreed upon a set of leading indicators to send my child to rural Cape Breton, and another set to send them to friends in Europe.
I will die at the border of this great nation, but my child’s life is not mine to forfeit.
We won’t invade Canada
Of course not.
But I’ve got plans in case you do. And I need to watch for early warning signs because my child will be shelled in the opening salvo.
Let’s revisit this in exactly 4 years. I don’t think there’s anything that could make that statement sound reasonable between now and then.