Jordan Chariton showcases the latest in Luigi Mangione's trial, where his lawyer has now come out to showcase how police illegally detained him, didn't miran...
That’s the thing… Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.
From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.
The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don’t care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi’s case.
So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald’s with everything on him to get a conviction?!
But people are buying it… Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.
Feels too… Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.
A line from the Running man comes to mind.
‘Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!’
In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.
Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too… tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.
We don’t know that. What we know is that the police searched him and his bag at the McDonalds, without properly reading him his Miranda rights before questioning him.
There is no indication that they found the gun or journal at this point in time.
They then arrested him, packed up his bag and took it to the station, where a subsequent search found the journal and gun.
Additionally, the Mayor and police chief released discovery evidence to an HBO documentary, but apparently not to Luigi’s defense lawyers… completely tainting the potential jury pool while making it clear that the prosecution is withholding evidence from the defense.
There’s a whole lot here that doesn’t pass the smell test. If it’s a frame up, why this guy in particular? And if it’s not a frame up, why the obvious attempt to hide what they have from the defense?
i think that he likely did do it, but the FBI used an illegal surveillance technique to catch him - my guess is facial recognition through hacked security cameras. Exposing this technique would be contrary to the bureau’s interests. I don’t see any reason why Luigi would have the gun on him, or the journal after the shooting, so I’m really questioning the validity of that evidence - I mean it’s murder 101 to get rid of the weapon, and unless you want to be caught, you don’t carry around written evidence on your person saying “Hey, I’m gonna shoot this guy”.
So yeah, there’s a whole lot here that doesn’t add up.
Sure narrative is decent but state still has to prove that he actually did so they spent a lot of time litigating this in media which backfired spectacularly.
I am not sure how this trial can even be fair now between people supporting him while state overplayed its hand.
Where will they find this mythical impartial jury? Go back in time?
Oh I ABSOLUTELY am of the belief that it is him. However, I find it strange that so much proof was supposedly found on him to the point that he might as well have been standing in time’s square shouting that he did it. There was no need to backtrace through his history, go through his home, interview friends or family. It was all There.
That is what strikes me as … too convenient.
They don’t want to go to the trouble of having this long drawn out process. They want thier gunman handed on a silver platter both to please the corporate overlords, and to show that they are competent.
Oh for sure they fucked around and made sure to plant as much shit to make sure he doesn’t get away with it, there’s definitely corruption around his case but yeah it’s him
And if Luigi gets off on a technicality in court, the message isn’t sent. Putting up a fall guy while assassinating the “real” culprit quietly is nonsensical, especially because if Luigi is a fall guy (he isn’t), that increases the likelihood that he gets off and ruins the whole thing.
I just find it strange that everything to convict him was conveniently close to hand. The immediacy of it all feels like something out of a police proceedural more so than documented cases where it takes weeks or months even when it is fairly clear who did what so a case can be built.
Not that I buy the fall guy conspiracy, but getting someone, anyone quickly could stop the copycats. They’re more worried about him being a trend setter then a repeat offender.
Not the rich, but politicians, police leadership, and DAs.
They don’t want to talk about how murders can go unsolved and crime unpunished in the cities they manage and protect.
They want to demonstrate that when they show up in force they are able to quickly solve a crime and bring a criminal to justice. One, so they can keep getting elected and two so that others don’t think they can get away with committing crimes.
The DA will want to push a conviction so that they look tough on crime for their political campaigns. Often times withholding evidence that might harm their case.
I don’t know if it happened in this case, but it has happened before where police will railroad a suspect to get a conviction even if there is clear evidence they couldn’t have committed the crime.
oh I absolutely believe the allegation as plausible.
They NEEDED a fall guy for this and they NEEDED it to be so cut and dry that they could quickly make an example of him.
Even if Luigi DID do it? This is railroading for the sake of trying to scare everyone else to stay in place.
That’s the thing… Everyone is acting like this guy totally do it.
From the start I had my doubts. Something felt off.
The only thing I know is that the government needs somebody to go to prison over this. They don’t care who though. This is the culture of law enforcement, so not even specific to Luigi’s case.
So we have to believe that they found this dude in fucking McDonald’s with everything on him to get a conviction?!
But people are buying it… Sure he has support but they also believe that he is a the guy who committed the crime. And I am just not convinced.
Government behaviour around this case is suspect.
Feels too… Tidy really. Too much like something out of a movie. High profile murder. Killer found. Killer has clear motive and everything is found on or near the guy. Suspect makes statements that sound like something Killer would say in that position.
A line from the Running man comes to mind.
‘Once again proving Might and Right are one and the same!’
In reference to a fake staged fight where State Sponsored Execution Reality TV kills a stunt double digitally made to look like the fugitive of the moment that has been making a mockery of The System. very neat. very tidy. Also, very Bullshit.
Edit: For the sake of records. I do believe he did it. I just find it too… tidy that everything was on hand to immediately bring a trial rather than months of legwork to ensure an air tight case.
Shooting someone in the middle of new York and then getting caught shortly after is basicallly an expected outcome
doing a lot of heavy lifting here lol
No its not
Imagine if it’s actually not him, and the real guy was able to get away because nobody’s looking any more.
That would be hilarious if he gets convicted and the next day another shooting happens with the same guy on camera again.
Oh my God imagine if the new CEO gets executed the next day.
If that is actually the case it would be really funny.
👀
It’s entirely possible he’s just not the criminal mastermind everyone thinks he is.
Certainly possible, but not proven.
I believe they call it Security Theatre
He had the gun on him
We don’t know that. What we know is that the police searched him and his bag at the McDonalds, without properly reading him his Miranda rights before questioning him.
There is no indication that they found the gun or journal at this point in time.
They then arrested him, packed up his bag and took it to the station, where a subsequent search found the journal and gun.
Additionally, the Mayor and police chief released discovery evidence to an HBO documentary, but apparently not to Luigi’s defense lawyers… completely tainting the potential jury pool while making it clear that the prosecution is withholding evidence from the defense.
There’s a whole lot here that doesn’t pass the smell test. If it’s a frame up, why this guy in particular? And if it’s not a frame up, why the obvious attempt to hide what they have from the defense?
i think that he likely did do it, but the FBI used an illegal surveillance technique to catch him - my guess is facial recognition through hacked security cameras. Exposing this technique would be contrary to the bureau’s interests. I don’t see any reason why Luigi would have the gun on him, or the journal after the shooting, so I’m really questioning the validity of that evidence - I mean it’s murder 101 to get rid of the weapon, and unless you want to be caught, you don’t carry around written evidence on your person saying “Hey, I’m gonna shoot this guy”.
So yeah, there’s a whole lot here that doesn’t add up.
People are too willing to accept the narrative.
Sure narrative is decent but state still has to prove that he actually did so they spent a lot of time litigating this in media which backfired spectacularly.
I am not sure how this trial can even be fair now between people supporting him while state overplayed its hand.
Where will they find this mythical impartial jury? Go back in time?
hE hAd tHe gUn oN hIm
How would it benefit the rich to have the real killer running lose while a random guy goes to jail??
This is the weirdest conspiracy so far.
It’s him, he did it, and praise him for doing it, he’s a legend. Neither he or his lawyers are denying it.
It’s super weird that people on the Internet are insisting it isn’t him
Oh I ABSOLUTELY am of the belief that it is him. However, I find it strange that so much proof was supposedly found on him to the point that he might as well have been standing in time’s square shouting that he did it. There was no need to backtrace through his history, go through his home, interview friends or family. It was all There.
That is what strikes me as … too convenient.
They don’t want to go to the trouble of having this long drawn out process. They want thier gunman handed on a silver platter both to please the corporate overlords, and to show that they are competent.
…when they are anything but.
Oh for sure they fucked around and made sure to plant as much shit to make sure he doesn’t get away with it, there’s definitely corruption around his case but yeah it’s him
The rich could have already discovered the real culprit and assassinated him quietly, rather than risk technicalities in court.
And if Luigi gets off on a technicality in court, the message isn’t sent. Putting up a fall guy while assassinating the “real” culprit quietly is nonsensical, especially because if Luigi is a fall guy (he isn’t), that increases the likelihood that he gets off and ruins the whole thing.
oh I ABSOLUTELY believe Luigi did it.
I just find it strange that everything to convict him was conveniently close to hand. The immediacy of it all feels like something out of a police proceedural more so than documented cases where it takes weeks or months even when it is fairly clear who did what so a case can be built.
But that wouldn’t send a message to keep the poor in line
That’s why the fall guy, let’s the cops save face as well
Can you hear yourself?
Not that I buy the fall guy conspiracy, but getting someone, anyone quickly could stop the copycats. They’re more worried about him being a trend setter then a repeat offender.
Not the rich, but politicians, police leadership, and DAs.
They don’t want to talk about how murders can go unsolved and crime unpunished in the cities they manage and protect.
They want to demonstrate that when they show up in force they are able to quickly solve a crime and bring a criminal to justice. One, so they can keep getting elected and two so that others don’t think they can get away with committing crimes.
The DA will want to push a conviction so that they look tough on crime for their political campaigns. Often times withholding evidence that might harm their case.
I don’t know if it happened in this case, but it has happened before where police will railroad a suspect to get a conviction even if there is clear evidence they couldn’t have committed the crime.