Welp, ICYMI [in case you missed it] Trump just had a goddamned meltdown, hollering while he tried to shake down Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy for Ukraine’s minerals like a bully trying to take a kid’s lunch money. Trump was hoping to declare FLAWLESS VICTORY and ART OF THE DEAL over Ukraine’s mineral rights, but tough shit! Zelenskyy left there without signing any deal, not even a face-saving Canada/Mexico kind of one, and apparently nothing was achieved other than Trump threatening to abandon Ukraine and looking like a dick idiot in front of the world. What else is new?
Here’s the full 45 minutes, if you want your eyeballs to melt into your brain. And here’s a transcript for HOLY SHIT.
Quick backstory, when Ukraine gave up the world’s third-largest collection of nuclear weapons in 1994, it was because Russia agreed to stay the fuck out of there and not engage in economic coercion, and the US, UK, and France agreed to come to Ukraine’s aid if Russia didn’t stick to that agreement. But in 2014, Putin declared the deal void, occupied Crimea, and Russian-backed separatist forces began fighting to take the Donbas in Ukraine, too. But the Russians were unsuccessful, and negotiated a ceasefire through the Minsk agreements of 2014 and 2015. However, a Pooty promise is worth jack and shit, and Russia began that full-scale invasion of Ukraine three years and four days ago.
So today Zelenskyy met with Trump, flanked by pile of asshair JD Vance. Trump started off by being a demeaning asshole as soon as Zelenskyy stepped out of the car: “Oh look. He’s all dressed up today!” (He doesn’t seem to have minded when Elon Trump showed up to preside over his Cabinet meeting dressed in a “Tech Support” T-shirt and trucker cap.) It was all downhill from there.
A reporter asked Trump if he was too aligned with Putin. Because yeah, claiming that Russia did not invade Ukraine and that Zelenskyy is some kind of dictator sure sounds like Putin is attached to Trump’s brain like some kind of space slug, even if a few days later Trump denied he said it. (“Did I say that? I can’t believe I said that. Next question.”)
Look, said Zelenskyy, “during the war, everybody has problems. Even you. But you have nice ocean, you don’t feel now, but you will feel it in the future.”
And ooh that set those little-dick bullies OFF.
“You don’t know, you don’t know, don’t tell us what we’re going to feel. We’re trying to solve a problem. Don’t tell us what we’re going to feel. Because you’re in no position to dictate that, remember that, you’re in no position to dictate what we’re going to feel. We’re going to feel very good. We’re going to feel very good and strong. You’re right now not in a very good position. You’ve allowed yourself to be in a very bad position. You’re not in a good position. You don’t have the cards right now. With us you start having cards.”
“I’m not playing cards. I’m very serious.”
Trump: [shouting again] “You haven’t been alone. We gave you, through the stupid president, $350 billion. We gave you military equipment. You and your men are brave, but they had to use our military [equipment.] If you didn‘t have our military equipment this war would have been over in two weeks.
Zelensky: “In three days. Yes, I heard it from Putin ‘in three days’…. in two weeks.”
Goddam trump is a smelly piece of shit.
“You’re either going to make a deal or we’re out. If we’re out, you’ll fight it out. I don’t think it will be pretty,” Trump huffed at one point. As if he was not already out, and the whole mineral-rights thing isn’t like Terry Doria borrowing money from doomed Vito Spatafore.
Zelenskyy left abruptly, and even the New York Times seems SHOOK.
“The departure was an extraordinary moment at the White House: the leader of an ally whose country is fighting for its life abruptly leaving, or being thrown out, after an explosive shouting match in the Oval Office,” a “dramatic break in relations between two wartime allies.”
No Russia, no Russia. We are the Russia.
“I’m not aligned with anybody. I’m aligned with the United States of America, and for the good of the world. I’m aligned with the world. I want to get the things set. I’m aligned with Europe. I want to see if we can get this thing done. You want me to be tough? I can be tougher than any human being you’ve ever seen. I’d be so tough. But you’re never going to get a deal that way. So that’s the way it goes.”
NARRATOR: He was not, in fact, aligned with the world.
Anyway, so TOUGH, says the guy too scared to say one word against Putin, ever. The WORLD clearly saw who invaded who, there. But Zelenskyy should say thanks, Putin, for violating all the agreements you ever made, stealing 20,000 Ukrainian children, and bombing babies in hospitals?
Zelenskyy tried to explain, they had a ceasefire deal with Russia already. Russia was supposed to return prisoners. But they did not stick to the ceasefire agreement they agreed to, or return the prisoners either. And Butthair Vance was not trying to hear it, or let anybody else hear it either, and he jumped in to lecture Zelenskyy to be more grateful.
And JD sitting on his future fuck toy demanding more groveling and begging.
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This you?
Liberals are literally more cruel than war.
You can take that hot bucket of crap right on outta here.
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Russian troll.
it’s unpleasant to read this kind of discontent but we shouldn’t push it aside just because it’s disagreeable
Gradually, however, he became disillusioned. The battle was furious. “The Russians would smash our positions to the ground,” he said. Senior Ukrainian commanders gave unrealistic orders. Then, while he was defending a ruined building, a panel fell on his shoulder. After receiving injections to reduce the pain, he was told to return to the front. “I realised I’m nobody. Just a number,” he said.
The issue of desertion has made headlines in Ukraine. Last week the government launched an investigation into the 155th Mechanised Brigade. Fifty-six soldiers disappeared while training in France. Hundreds of others are said to be missing. The unit’s commander, Dmytro Riumshyn, was arrested. He faces 10 years in jail for failing to carry out his official duties and to report unauthorised absences.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jan/31/tired-mood-changed-ukrainian-army-desertion-crisis
For the past month, the 31-year-old photographer from Kharkiv, Ukraine’s second-largest city, has been holed up in his flat, rarely stepping outside, to avoid being conscripted into the army. “I want to leave the country. My mind can’t take being trapped here any more,” Dmytro said.
Since the start of the war, thousands of Ukrainian men have illegally crossed the Ukrainian border to dodge conscription, despite a nationwide ban prohibiting men between the ages of 18 and 60 from leaving.
OP, i feel your pain. This feeling of helplessness is not easy to deal with. When I watch that video I feel nothing but respect for Zelenskyy. The man, for the love of Ukraine, found in himself the force to thank those scumbags. What a shame for the whole humanity!
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Are… are the libs in the room with you right now?
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Wow that is exceptionally more cringe and delusional than I was expecting. And my expectations of right-wing Libertarians. Being oxymorons in and of themselves is always very low. But you managed to surpass those low expectations and go lower.
Is he trying to kill you or is he trying to prevent a mass exidious that would leave the country weak and defencless against a psychopathic dictator? When your country is at war, in a fight for its very survival, some sacrifices of personal liberties are expected.
GTFO
Your instance is lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org? Lol.
GTFO
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Pretty please, with a cherry on top
#GTFO
If you think putin will stop killing ppl if Ukraine surrenders, you’re completely delusional. He killed ppl before that war and will continue to do so afterwards. Probably not just in russia. Putin will likely attack more countries, if he isn’t stopped.
I pity you, you know. I’m sorry for whatever happened to you that makes you act the way you do.
Weak.
