Summary
Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has called for an “immediate” summit between the US, EU, and Western allies to discuss Ukraine following a heated White House meeting between Trump and President Zelenskyy.
The February 28 meeting ended without agreement on a minerals deal after escalating into a confrontation over US aid and peace deal conditions.
Meloni warned that Western division “makes us all weaker” as European leaders reaffirmed support for Ukraine.
EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas commented that “the free world needs a new leader,” while European allies worry about being excluded from US-Russia negotiations to end the war.
Meloni probably wants to congratulate Trump.
How fucked is the world, when Meloni is the reasonable one…
Meloni’s summit proposal is a reminder that Europe won’t sit quietly while sidelined by Washington.
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I understand that Meloni is struggling with cognitive dissonance here because she loves Trump and the American far right but also recognizes Russia as the obvious enemy to Europe that they are (and thereby making Ukraine our natural ally).
But the time for courting is over. America has become a hostile nation and they might actually be our enemy soon.
Increase European integration and federalization. Increase defense spending and fund a European MIC. Organize into a joint European army. This and only this can be our way forward or we will be crushed between two fascist superpowers.
Same in Slovenia when it comes to far right. They were drooling over Trump (our PM at the time even congratulated Trump on winning 2020 elections before the official results) and also painted themselves as biggest Ukraine supporters. Now I’m not sure where they stand and how they rationalize the situation, since I’m off X and Facebook.
I couldn’t agree more. I’m an outsider to Europe, unfortunately, and find myself as a Canadian increasingly seeing America in much the way Ukraine must have felt about Russia in 2010. Europe is the last hope for democracy and the rule of law in the world right now.
I hope we can greatly strengthen our relationship between the EU and Canada.
Same here my friend. Terrible times in the world, and the only way to survive such times is cooperation
The USA absolutely cannot be trusted as an ally. If a war we’re to break out right now I truly do not know what side I’d be on.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see a headline soon saying that discussion broke down too.
“Don’t tell me how to feel. We’re gonna feel great. You know what? I didn’t hear a thank you from you. We’re gonna put the world’s biggliest Olive Garden right here in America’s 53th state, how about that, Meloni? It’ll be the best deal.”
I know which side I’d be on, just not sure which side my government will be.
This here so much. /a German
What does she think she’s going to accomplish inviting the US, except sabotage?
Oh wait, she’s a fascist – that’s exactly what she’s hoping to accomplish.
Georgia Meloni is an embarrassment for Italy.
Cool, at least the US isn’t alone
News flash: most countries have assholes in charge by now. Latest member to the club: us. /a German
(Arguably Scholz was already a criminal asshole)
Italy needs to understand that thinking you can reason with Trump makes Europe weaker.
In fact, this works with all countries. He’s a literal baby. He doesn’t understand or want to hear your reasoning because he knows he’s right. As soon as everybody understands that, the quicker they can get to the task of isolating the US as much as possible.
Italy is probably not acting in good faith. Meloni is a serious piece of shit.
Italian here, I feel ashamed of our PM. It is even more ridiculous how she endorsed the relationship with US just a couple of weeks ago and then Trump started doing even more shitty things.
Not to downplay Italian politics, But Trump is not acting in good faith either. Trump is a serious piece of shit too.
Italy’s leader is like actually a neofascist
And trump and his GOP friends aren’t? The only difference is that Italian fascists can use the nostalgia card, so their rhetoric is clearer.
Which is probably why she’s so keen to talk to Trump, who’s also a fascist.
I am surprised that after all what have been happening in just the last weeks any entity would consider Trump’s words to have any value of any kind, they end having no reliability nor accountability, how could be worth any reasoning attempt?
Europe really needs to beef up its defense industries and whatnot. America’s unreliability is becoming an existential threat and it’s clear that Trump and Co will be extremely opportunistic and quick to align with Russia.
I love reading about people not knowing the EU military industry writing about how it’s somehow weak. Newsflash: it’s not. We don’t talk or write about it 'cause it’s sensitive data. We protect sensitive data. Our armies may not be strong, but our military industry is.
Newsflash: it’s not.*
- As long as it’s not made by the Brits.
(Looks accusingly at the SA80 / L85 platform… And the Challenger 2)
So strong it buys all relevant jets from the us.
So strong.
Europe’s euro fighter jet is and was a very respectable fighter. With the shift towards stealth with the latest generation, it may be falling behind in key areas but still a good air craft. Developing a jet is a huge, huge undertaking and arguably Europe’s resources could be spent better elsewhere rather than trying to develop an F35/F22 competitor.
Europe does have industrial and military capacity issues. This is well known and European leaders are among the quickest to point it out. No idea why the guy above wants to bury his head in the sand on that.
The biggest issues are arguably fragmentation and tepid political/societal support. Europe has various strengths but work is needed to make the most out of their potential.
Your industries can’t even supply artillery and basic equipment to Ukraine, at least nowhere at the level needed to win the war. This is well-known. European leaders have been harping on the need to upgrade capacities.
So, newsflash: sorry, your military industry isn’t up to par yet. The potential is there. Many of the technologies are there. The actual support and capacity to make the most out of that potential is lacking.
This isn’t in any way a controversial opinion. The reality on the ground with constant shortages and European leaders themselves acknowledging the military industry needs more support is well known.
Who’s gonna be representing murica there? Is it gonna be this happy threesome?
I trust the sofa; it looks reliable.
We all know Vance was fondling that sofa when attention was turned elsewhere.
Looks like Rubio is not yet used to sofa fucking.
Actually such a disappointment from him, after his talks about Ukraine few years ago.
The Secretary of State implements foreign policy but doesn’t decide it.
Honestly, if I were Rubio I would have declined the Secretary of State spot. At the moment, I doubt it does much to help any Presidential ambitions he might have and he probably had more actual power in the Senate rather than at State.
Yeah, you’re right.
At this point we either end up as a dictatorship (please God I hope not) or his current role right now will disqualify him from presidency in the future.
Knees needed bending. Rings needed kissing.
I’ve seen some analysts claim that just this one time Zelensky needed to be more of an actor and smile and wave through the bullshit. But I disagree, if you stand for nothing, you will keep getting walked over, if not by putin, by trump, like little Marco here.
I suspect the whole thing was premeditated, so it wouldn’t have mattered. Does the VP normally interrupt the president when talking to other world leaders? Zelensky smiling and tacitly agreeing to Putin’s narrative was never going to happen. I also can’t imagine any European leader going to the White House and saying, “Yes, we’ve treated you very unfairly. The European Union was just a conspiracy to screw over America and we’re very sorry, Dear Leader…”
When I saw the latest deal, it didn’t look as bad (I mean it was bad, but not horribly bad as the initial suggestion) so was wondering what changed again. Yeah, looks like he was baited and this was done on purpose.
Trump wants to go all the way with Russia, but there are still Republicans that support Ukraine or at least dislike Russia and he wanted to show them that Zelenskyy is just an ungrateful warmonger.
Another thing is that trump invited Russian press to this meeting (while American AP is banned).
Bad news Fash Barbie, Trump is letting Europe hang to the Russians
