What I push back on was that there was/are a sizable part of society that deemed disengagement an appropriate response. With the cultish temperament of the maga crowd they are going to show up and support their prophet regardless. This means that everyone who decides they can’t vote ‘for’ genocide and blame the existing admin, means that it’s that much less opposing a second person at the helm who would make things far worse.
It’s pretty well the classic trolly problem. In this case though the passive non-response harms more people, while the active intervention harms fewer. People want to argue that by taking an action they aided in the harm of those fewer people, but wash their hands of the worse outcome because they kept their hands off.
I get that. You can just as well focus your blame game on the Democratic party and demand reform on their end. My impression is that that’s a more productive way of going forward, because reforming the attitudes of the electorate is a much harder proposition.
I don’t worry about votes, particularly when the post came from a .ml user it’s a given to be chaotic. Usually don’t mark things myself much.
Working on the party should be constant and noisy and needs a full overhaul, but at the moment of decision refusing to act by staying home says to me that all the yelling before was just show because they didn’t care enough to make a choice of ‘better than’ even if not perfect.
What I push back on was that there was/are a sizable part of society that deemed disengagement an appropriate response. With the cultish temperament of the maga crowd they are going to show up and support their prophet regardless. This means that everyone who decides they can’t vote ‘for’ genocide and blame the existing admin, means that it’s that much less opposing a second person at the helm who would make things far worse.
It’s pretty well the classic trolly problem. In this case though the passive non-response harms more people, while the active intervention harms fewer. People want to argue that by taking an action they aided in the harm of those fewer people, but wash their hands of the worse outcome because they kept their hands off.
I get that. You can just as well focus your blame game on the Democratic party and demand reform on their end. My impression is that that’s a more productive way of going forward, because reforming the attitudes of the electorate is a much harder proposition.
Ps. I’m not downvoting you btw.
I don’t worry about votes, particularly when the post came from a .ml user it’s a given to be chaotic. Usually don’t mark things myself much.
Working on the party should be constant and noisy and needs a full overhaul, but at the moment of decision refusing to act by staying home says to me that all the yelling before was just show because they didn’t care enough to make a choice of ‘better than’ even if not perfect.