• KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
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    7 hours ago

    throughout history this has been called genocide. trump calls it site preparation.

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    remember when ukraine was the priority and we at least limited the size of ordnance that could be sold to isreal and we at least talked with them about stopping. good times.

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        8 hours ago

        Was not super long ago. One of trumps earlier actions was to lift the ordinance limits and of course at that point you never saw any talk about withdrawl or humanitarian cooridors or anything. all that went up in smoke.

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          Oh, you’re talking about the symbolic bullshit that was only to soothe domestic liberals and didn’t affect things on the ground at all.

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              Things literally are (slightly) better now, the amount of killing and destruction has declined considerably. But because, as I said, you only care about symbolic bullshit and not actual Palestinian lives, you don’t care.

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                oh yeah. Im the one who does not care. with supposed friends the palestinians have who needs the made up enemies the supposed friends make in their heads for them. The one who talk now and then stick in their fingers in thier ears about whats being talked about. Its two months in and that will only work for so long.

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                  Yes, you are the one who doesn’t care: you were happy to engage in genocide denial and apologia when it was your team doing the genocide.

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    If someone broke into your home and destroyed all the food, and blockaded you from leaving or anything from getting in, wouldn’t it be obvious they were trying to kill you?

    So how could this not be an intentional act of genocide? And now we have Trump they will be cheered on if anything

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      12 hours ago

      And now we have Trump they will be cheered on if anything

      They were cheered on before Trump too

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      They know it is a genocide, they don’t care because they fell for the lies that all Palestinians are Hamas. They don’t call it a genocide because it would make them feel in the wrong, but they believe it is justified to kill every Hamas person. Even if that means they are an Israeli person in Florida who clearly was never part of Hamas, but they thought might look like a Palestinian.

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    One day — if there is any justice left in this world — Israel will be swept into the dustbin of history, just like e.g. the Third Reich, Rhodesia and apartheid South Africa before it

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      Palestinians, to the average Zionist aren’t human. They range from animals to demons, depending on whichever fulfills the fascist propaganda needs at the time.

      Closing off Gaza is closing the gates of hell, keeping in the demons and making sure they stay there while gods holy soldiers kill them.

      This type of thinking is common is Israel, and why the state of Israel is beyond redemption at this stage in history. The Nazis won there.

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    20 hours ago

    Well TBF to western news:

    • He tweeted this 16 hours ago
    • These people say and do shit like this pretty much every day
    • Western Media has a lot of shit to cover in their own countries atm
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      Lol, imagine if a high ranking PA official (not even Hamas) were to say something like this. The UN Security Council would be passing a resolution condemning him.

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        Hey man, my heart sides with Palestine, but Hamas officials absolutely do say that shit every day of the week.

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      Yep. At this point just throw it on the “more evidence for genocide” pile. Israel could start up trains and ovens and I’d just say, “Yeah. Figures.”

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      Yea! I was told that the genocide was single-handedly Biden’s fault and then single-handedly Kamala’s fault and that’s why we couldn’t vote for them! It’s a good thing we didnt too. It was important to send a message to the Democrats that we think genocide as bad. And what better way to send that message than to elect someone who pushes even harder for it?!

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      Why are Democrats so obsessed with gaslighting people into Genocide Joe not doing the same stuff?

      Israel killed American World Food Kitchen employees to starve Palestinians and got away with it under Genocide Joe.

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        The point is that this same thing was going to happen regardless, but now we have Israel being shit AND everything else that has come along with a Trump admin.

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          Why did it have to fucking happen regardless though?

          I mean I’m fucking tired of democrat supporting Americans being so fucking fatalistic about Biden policies.

          It did not have to fucking happen. Biden could have pulled the plug from Israel’s war before the us election cycle started. But he didn’t. Why are you so fucking fatalistic that oh there is no way this could not have happened? Or to rephrase that, if you are so fatalistic about that, well you’ve already given up on democracy, so why do you complain about Maga fascism anyway?

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            I wasn’t sold it it had to be that way no matter who was at the desk. I’ve bitched about Israel long before this round came up. Every time they would get a few old rockets landing a field somewhere it’s used as an excuse to go and level everything and everyone in reach, which is bullshit.

            HOWEVER, when it comes to a place of accept the bullshit as is, and knowing that there is NO chance a 3rd party is going to get anywhere given the current system, or make it several orders worse by letting in someone who has said outright ‘let them finish the job’, along with all the other insanity coming from him daily the right choice is clear as can be.

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              Did I mention the presidential election? I’m harping on the push back against calling your previous president “genocide Joe”. You had a terrible choice to make between a Maga radical fascist and an imperialist genocide enabler. You personally made that terrible choice in a way that I would probably also go if I were American. But for goodness sake, the fact that the alternative was… Trump doesn’t absolve in the least Biden from the genocide he enabled.

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                What I push back on was that there was/are a sizable part of society that deemed disengagement an appropriate response. With the cultish temperament of the maga crowd they are going to show up and support their prophet regardless. This means that everyone who decides they can’t vote ‘for’ genocide and blame the existing admin, means that it’s that much less opposing a second person at the helm who would make things far worse.

                It’s pretty well the classic trolly problem. In this case though the passive non-response harms more people, while the active intervention harms fewer. People want to argue that by taking an action they aided in the harm of those fewer people, but wash their hands of the worse outcome because they kept their hands off.

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                  I get that. You can just as well focus your blame game on the Democratic party and demand reform on their end. My impression is that that’s a more productive way of going forward, because reforming the attitudes of the electorate is a much harder proposition.

                  Ps. I’m not downvoting you btw.

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          And if the Democrats had actually tried to win against Trump they would have listened to what the vast majority of their constituents wanted (plus you know, international and domestic law) and implemented an Arms Embargo. They should have started the ceasefire many months earlier instead of continuing to support the genocide unconditionally, fracturing their base when they needed as many votes as possible to win against fascism.

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            They actually held a primary election to find out what their constituents wanted and… oh look, after winning the primaries with 14 million votes Joe Biden stepped down for his VP to take his spot on the ticket.

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          If only more people pressured Democrats to change their position instead of caving and falling in line. Then they would at least have a moral high ground to stand on if they lost.