Are there any Neopronouns that involve staying as a human and living in reality?
Most neopronouns are either gender-neutral or specifically NB, and do not make any claims on being other species. Xe/Xer is one of the most common ones - simply being a gender-neutral singular form of ‘He/Him’, ‘She/Her’, ‘They/Them’, etc.
There is an argument to be made for neopronouns. I think the discussion is conceptually valid, even if I hope the simple classic they/them becomes standard.
Personalized neopronouns I’m less certain of the utility of, but I use as a courtesy when asked. I may be short, irritable, bad-tempered, ill-humored, and judgmental, but I’m not going to go out of my way to be a dick. If someone asks to modify some minor matter of my speech patterns to accommodate them, whether for clarity or comfort, I generally try to oblige.
“I am a Dragon rawr” sounds pretty innocent and playful to be above your bar for respect. People should have the right to be playful and have fun, otherwise fuck life amirite? Maybe if you played along, you’d have fun too.
“I am a Dragon rawr” sounds pretty innocent and playful to be above your bar for respect. People should have the right to be playful and have fun, otherwise fuck life amirite?
I mean, I’m not saying they don’t have the right to be playful and have fun, but I don’t regard the idea that I should be forced to play their game with them particularly positively. And when it starts to dip into serious matters, we have a, well, serious problem. Like Drag insisting that not acknowledging dragons was transphobic - when transphobia is a real and serious issue. I’m not going to treat such assertions with respect in that context.
Gimme a source on the “not acknowledging dragons was transphobic” comment. On its face, that sounds like a joke with about as much sarcasm as the comic you posted.
Every single person that uses language decides for themself how to communicate their ideas: how to make the language work.
If the language works to communicate ideas to the intended audience, then it works. People invent new ways to make language work every day.
Work in physics is the transfer of energy by a force acting on a path through space. Let’s consider “Lork” an analogous concept to work, but it’s a transfer of entropy (information) by a meme acting on a path through a social network.
Sometimes the meme communicates better with unusual language structures. Those unusual language structures can be used to call attention and bring their own crunchy deep-fried feel to the meme.
Is it wrong if the meme still has the Lork to communicate the desired message? What if the “improperness” of the grammar helps to increase the Lork?
Language as we know it is being devoured and reimagined. Join in on the fun.
Language should not be dictated by any authoritarian body. We should all be the authors of our own lives and free to choose how to communicate our ideas.
It’s not language being dictated, but it’s usage, and I understand that aspect of it.
I mean, besides the obvious “you shouldn’t use hate speech,” if someone tells me that their pronouns are they/them and I ignore that and just keep using she/her, that would be incredibly disrespectful. It’s not about whether it’s grammatically valid or not, it’s the meaning and intent.
That being said, I think Drag is where I’d draw the line. It’s not that I don’t respect neopronouns, but rather that I think Drag is an insincere troll. Not to mention that the whole purpose behind neopronouns is to work around the gendered nature of standard third-person pronouns, but mandating that it also needs to apply to the gender-agnostic first- and second-person pronouns makes no sense.
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Neopronouns are not bullshit. But there does need to be some basis by which normal people can understand and utilize them.
Language is not static, and if enough people adopt an alternative set of pronouns, congrats, it’s a thing.
Genuine question. Since I don’t want to disrespect people, but don’t want to validate people mocking real life gender identities.
What is a Neopronoun that isn’t a human being wanting to be something other than a human being?
Are there any Neopronouns that involve staying as a human and living in reality?
Most neopronouns are either gender-neutral or specifically NB, and do not make any claims on being other species. Xe/Xer is one of the most common ones - simply being a gender-neutral singular form of ‘He/Him’, ‘She/Her’, ‘They/Them’, etc.
There is an argument to be made for neopronouns. I think the discussion is conceptually valid, even if I hope the simple classic they/them becomes standard.
Personalized neopronouns I’m less certain of the utility of, but I use as a courtesy when asked. I may be short, irritable, bad-tempered, ill-humored, and judgmental, but I’m not going to go out of my way to be a dick. If someone asks to modify some minor matter of my speech patterns to accommodate them, whether for clarity or comfort, I generally try to oblige.
“I am a Dragon rawr, acknowledge me”?
Courtesy has limits.
“I am a Dragon rawr” sounds pretty innocent and playful to be above your bar for respect. People should have the right to be playful and have fun, otherwise fuck life amirite? Maybe if you played along, you’d have fun too.
I don’t agree you should be banned.
I mean, I’m not saying they don’t have the right to be playful and have fun, but I don’t regard the idea that I should be forced to play their game with them particularly positively. And when it starts to dip into serious matters, we have a, well, serious problem. Like Drag insisting that not acknowledging dragons was transphobic - when transphobia is a real and serious issue. I’m not going to treat such assertions with respect in that context.
Gimme a source on the “not acknowledging dragons was transphobic” comment. On its face, that sounds like a joke with about as much sarcasm as the comic you posted.
Fuck, really? Making me go through Drag’s comment history? Fine.
https://lemmy.world/comment/15142440
https://lemmy.world/comment/14026077
Every single person that uses language decides for themself how to communicate their ideas: how to make the language work.
If the language works to communicate ideas to the intended audience, then it works. People invent new ways to make language work every day.
Work in physics is the transfer of energy by a force acting on a path through space. Let’s consider “Lork” an analogous concept to work, but it’s a transfer of entropy (information) by a meme acting on a path through a social network.
Sometimes the meme communicates better with unusual language structures. Those unusual language structures can be used to call attention and bring their own crunchy deep-fried feel to the meme.
Is it wrong if the meme still has the Lork to communicate the desired message? What if the “improperness” of the grammar helps to increase the Lork?
Language as we know it is being devoured and reimagined. Join in on the fun.
It’s the fact they (including the Blahaj admins) demand everyone else use language in the same way they do that rankles with me.
Language should not be dictated by any authoritarian body. We should all be the authors of our own lives and free to choose how to communicate our ideas.
It’s not language being dictated, but it’s usage, and I understand that aspect of it.
I mean, besides the obvious “you shouldn’t use hate speech,” if someone tells me that their pronouns are they/them and I ignore that and just keep using she/her, that would be incredibly disrespectful. It’s not about whether it’s grammatically valid or not, it’s the meaning and intent.
That being said, I think Drag is where I’d draw the line. It’s not that I don’t respect neopronouns, but rather that I think Drag is an insincere troll. Not to mention that the whole purpose behind neopronouns is to work around the gendered nature of standard third-person pronouns, but mandating that it also needs to apply to the gender-agnostic first- and second-person pronouns makes no sense.