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So, why are they suddenly allowed to talk about it?
Say what you want about Apple and their motivations, we really need them to win this case. You cannot get your privacy (or right to it) back once it’s gone.
They care more about protecting their IP and public image, not end privacy of users.
They make a big fuss anytime a public request comes up like the FBI a few years ago, but they have zero issue funneling everything into the NSA just like every other Silicon Valley shmuck.
Sometimes i like Apple, sometimes I don’t. This is certainly the former.
They’re certainly less-bad about this stuff than Google, Facebook, etc.
Yeah but they also paid trump a fortune to clamp down on eu regulations
Less-bad lol
Don’t trust the corpos but Apple has a history of resisting stuff like this.
No 👏 they 👏 do 👏 not.
Get Apple’s dick out of your ass.
They literally have a history of moving data to government servers and handing over encryption keys: https://thehackernews.com/2021/05/how-apple-gave-chinese-government.html?m=1
Ok 👏 dude 👏
San Bernardino shooter case?
That’s separate from what OP is talking about. The on-device encryption is decent
For data on Apple’s servers (which they push icloud by anemic device storage…) Apple themselves publish that they give access to user accounts 90% of the time in the US
Ignoring the fact they already did this in China? And by the way, you have no way of knowing when your data was uploaded to the Chinese servers
I’m not sure how this is incompatible with what I said. What your point?
It’s already gone because it’s not disclosed when or why it is moved to servers where the Chinese govt can decrypt it, but I guess it depends on who you’re worried about having your data
No one outside of China has their data stored there, though. Every tech company that complies with China hosts the data in China and usually makes the Chinese version of their software work differently as a result. The Chinese government isn’t able to just see everyone else’s data.
No one outside of China has their data stored there, though.
- There’s no way to tell if Apple transfers your data there
- Apple does not clarify how they decide when to transfer your data there
- You are putting a lot of faith into a system that shows no transparency
This is true, but considering all the US government problems with China, if Apple does send your data to Chinese servers regardless of where you are, I’d guess governments in the US and Europe would make iPhones forbidden for all their sensitive personnel.
why do you think so? are xiaomi phones forbidden for those people?
You know there are some of us who don’t use iCloud so you can stop assuming all of us are in this boat lol
It’s already gone then. There’s nothing I can do about it.
It’s irrelevant what fascism collaborators do as their side job. Fuck apple.
https://www.axios.com/2025/01/03/tim-cook-apple-donate-1-million-trump-inauguration
I didn’t say I like Apple or that I trust them or anything. I said we want them to win this lawsuit.
They can win it in a way that will still benefit only them and not you.
Do you even understand what this lawsuit is about? Do you understand what the ramifications are if they win? If they lose?
I want you to explain exactly what you mean by your comment. How are they going to win in such a way that we lose?
Yes, I do. Don’t assume. If they win or lose is irrelevant. If they win, it will not be used for some glorious precedent forever pushing against the governments asking to compromise all software solutions, it will be just a saved implementation time for apple and a pr boost for them among people who don’t know better. If they lose, it will be yet another trust and security issue with a closed proprietary unauditable product noone security minded should be using anyway, by a shit company with ties to fascist, willingly cooperating with PRISM and who knows what other programs, in a rogue state which is a part of Five Eyes.
Ok so you don’t.
Apple is all proprietary anyways, so you shouldn’t trust them still, even if they win this court case. I recommend using Librebooted Dell OptiPlex 780’s or Dell E4300 Latitude’s with Trisquel GNU/Linux + Tor Browser with Javascript disabled if your looking for the most privacy in your internet activites. You can do what you wish with this information.
Oh my god the responses are so aggravating
It does not fucking matter what we think of Apple. If they lose this case, we all lose.
This isn’t a discussion about what hardware to buy dude jfc take step back and look around you for 2 seconds
I think we should attack this issue at the root. There are already backdoors in the devices anyway, so what’s this court case really going to achieve? I get it, because it would be a known backdoor, but think of all the nastier NSA backdoors that aren’t disclosed to the public. We’ve lost already by the masses using this proprietary garbage. Schools have failed to teach libre software, this is one of the major reasons we’re here in the first place.
bow chicka bow bow
What did the farmer say when the brown chicken walked up to the brown cow?
