• NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    Let’s figure out a way to separate the base from trump.

    Because it’s either inevitable or impossible, depending on how much they choose to dig in their heels. If reality can’t convince them they made a mistake, you sure as hell won’t. Also, and equally importantly, progressives must unite behind an effective leadership if they expect to get rid of the Trump menace, and the DNC is not effective leadership. Getting progressives and liberals to stop carrying water for them is the first step to bulding real progressive opposition to Trump and hopefully a half-decent government in the aftermath.

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      no, that’s the thing. we did figure out how to separate the fascist base from trump back in 2016. it was the entire sanders campaign. it turns out when you gave people things they wanted, they used to like it. I know; so fucking weird.

      anyway, the dems took that from us, and gave us fucking clinton instead. so fuck them. they took what might’ve been our last chance to stop this without violence. and they still aren’t on our side, even now. never forgive them for that, because they will not improve.

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        To be clear Bernie was and is able to take away some of Trump’s supporters, that’s true, but not a majority of them. What made Bernie’s campaign (and his entire existence) so effective was his ability to rile up his base and increase progressive turnout.

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          I’m convinced they axed him just so they could tank this election and give us Trump. They’ve been on his side this whole time.

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          he got both people who would have been trump supporters AND compromised with the left. seems like that’s a candidate that could have fucking won.