No, Steam, they're not "bullet hell action roguelikes".
  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.netEnglish
    7·
    2 hours ago

    Bullet heaven is likely what will stick. If you don’t like that it’s also the name of a game, consider that metroidvania contains the name of two games.

  • Xenny@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    1 hour ago

    We’ve established a name already in the indie space for these. It’s a “horde survival shooter” damnit.

    Not to be confused with the plain old “horde shooter” like your helldivers 2 and what not

  • JokeDeity@lemm.eeEnglish
    2·
    6 hours ago

    I’ve just been calling them exactly that: vampire survivors like. It’s a mouthful, so I’m open to the alternatives.

  • alphabethunter@lemmy.worldEnglish
    141·
    13 hours ago

    Let’s just stick with survivor, or survivor-like. It works fine for roguelikes and soulslikes. No need to force a genre name.

      • PuddleOfKittensEnglish
        12·
        4 hours ago

        Bullet Heaven is the name of an existing game, don’t clobber it with a genre name.

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
          2·
          1 hour ago

          An existing game from newgrounds posted 14 years ago. I don’t think it’s going to cause that much confusion.

        • SkyezOpen@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 hours ago

          Looks like it’s too late. I Googled bullet heaven and it took a few minutes to find the actual game, which is ironically a bullet hell game.

      • CancerMancerEnglish
        2·
        2 hours ago

        It should be more in inverse bullet hell: it’s hell, but not for you.

      • FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io
        21·
        6 hours ago

        I didn’t come up with the name, that’s just what people have been calling it for as long as I can remember.

      • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyzEnglish
        20·
        16 hours ago

        Normal bullet hell (Touhou): the enemies shoot a hell of bullets at you. And your job is to avoid it. Reverse bullet hell (Vampire Survivors): you shoot a hell of bullets at the enemies. And your job is to shoot even more, bigger, stronger bullets.

  • Matt@lemm.eeEnglish
    423·
    20 hours ago

    I thought it was already considered a reverse bullet-hell. But I do like Bullet heaven as well.

    • multiplemigsEnglish
      12·
      21 hours ago

      lol saw this on a Steam Review and it is my favorite.

  • towerful@programming.devEnglish
    521·
    22 hours ago

    It’s an autoshooter isn’t it?
    Vampire Survivors would be a rogue-like autoshooter.

    Like Backpack Battles is an autobattler.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
      13·
      17 hours ago

      I don’t know why people keep calling it rogue like. Rogue-likes have a lot more randomness than an easily manipulated item drop system. I don’t know that a random map is a necessity but it certainly needs something along those lines.

      • BlackAura@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        42 minutes ago

        Rogue had you start from scratch with a new character in a random map every time.

        Rogue-like games initially meant you start from scratch in a new random world, but you incrementally improve your experience by small buffs you can buy, or changing your starting equipment / skills (sometimes by changing out which character you start as).

        Rogue-like has slowly changed to mean “start over regularly but slowly unlock new items/buffs/equipment/characters/etc to help you further explore a world which may or may not be random”

        So it applies to games like Risk of Rain (and 2), Balatro, Dead Cells, and Rogue Legacy, just to name a few examples (though 3 of those are 2d platformers with randomly generated worlds if I remember right…).

        But yeah it seems to have morphed into a broadly used term for games where you get better over time through purchasing permanent buffs and whatnot (as well as natural skill), but are forced to restart any time you die.

        Vampire Survivors and other similar style games have you constantly restarting when you die so I think the term fits as a partial descriptor.

        Maybe we could adopt the idle/clicker game term Prestige, but that’s more of a voluntary restart when you hit a wall and can’t progress, so I don’t think it quite works.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        1 hour ago

        They call it a rogue-like because there is meta-progression even though you “start over” each run.

  • GluWu@lemm.eeEnglish
    71·
    16 hours ago

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