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Summary
Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.
His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.
Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.
Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.
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Take it from the former US Ambassador to Russia
Holy greedy, yes I understand he’s a dictator, but c’mon!
… does Ukraine even get anything out of that? It doesn’t sound like Ukraine benefits in any way.
It’s like “here’s the deal: you just give me $1 million”
The benefit to Ukraine is that simply being at the table shows they’re willing and Russia just keeps taking and taking, historically that ends one way.
The benefit is to survive.
In the short term but without assistance from other countries Putin will be back to finish the job.
If you are either and Putin comes back to finish the job, then European countries will need to decide if they want to go to war for Ukraine or not.
Ah the art of the deal. Impressive.
The answer to that is giving Ukraine more and more support, weapons and material until Putin changed his tune. Or you play the sniveling coward and start negotiating these earnestly. We all know what path Donnie boy will take.
The answer is for Europe to collectively get involved and annihilate every Russian within Ukraine’s borders. Set up permanent EU bases on the Russian border. Offer a massive ransom and immunity for anyone in Russia who neutralizes Putin and his oligarchy. The mafia state must be destroyed, and a message needs to be sent to the US that Europe will come down on them hard if they attempt to use force on any allies. Fascists are bullies, and only learn their lesson through violence.
Trump does not control the military yet. He can replace leadership but I’d be willing to bet a majority of lifers in leadership would turn against him if he tried to invade Canada or Greenland within the next few years. Better to trigger a civil war now than allow the fascists to consolidate power and fill the military with loyalists.
Yes but European countries have no appetite for war.
hes going to be laying more pressure on trump to force ukraine to give up.
Americans do not want to provide more support, weapons and material anymore. European countries can take over.
Real Americans do want to provide support. It’s the Russian asset and his smooth brain cult following who doesn’t.
Nope, most Americans do not want to send more money and arms to Ukraine.
Russia already made this clear within the first month when negotiations happened.
Annex Russia Donald, you fucking pussy.
Wow, it only took The Guardian 25 years to figure that out
Trump doesn’t care, but on the other hand I really don’t think he is a Russian asset.
Russia is playing their negotiating well. They have projected strength and total commitment to their claimed goals. They were able to do it, because of the diplomatic blunders by the Trump administration. Until now US have not said anything about Russian concessions. They were mentioned, but nothing specific.
On the other side, the Ukrainians will never accept anything close to what the Russians want. Even if America tries to force the conditions on them, they will still have some support from Europe.
Trump wants this. I mean, let’s get serious, if he does it, he could legitimately expect the Nobel prize. I’m not even joking, if he does, he would be an idiot savant of peacemaking. It’s highly unlikely though, but what is his way out?
Trump does not have the cards to force a peace deal, or the skills to negotiate one. Ukraine and Putin are simply too far apart to meet in the middle.
Only a cuck would concede anything to Putin, and Trump is king cuck.
Thats completely naive. Reality doesn’t work like memes. People are dying, lives are being destroyed.
Definitely not skills. But both sides in the war want to have a strong start to the negotiation. Ukraine might give up Crimea officially for NATO membership. Russia will do anything that will look like they won.
NATO membership is off the table.
Its the start of the negotiation, everyone will take positions, but might change them. I don’t think Nato is really an option, but they might avoid this and make individual 2 party agreements between Ukraine and Nato countries that would serve as a sort of replacement for actually admitting Ukraine to Nato.
I don’t see Russia accepting that.
Without giving Ukrainians real safety guarantees, they will never stop fighting. Russia knows that. If they don’t accept safety guarantees they are saying, they want to war more.
They will never stop fighting? Ukraine can’t win a war of attrition against Russia.
I’m convinced Trump is chasing the nobel peace prize because Obama has one and he’s still butt hurt over it.
It is not about Trumps skills. My guess is that there might have been a deal, if Trump didn’t get in the way of his advisors by posting on social media and going off script in interviews
This comment is mentally challenged
The support from Europe is not enough for Ukraine to survive.
Maybe it could be, if EU countries actually start up the military production as so many leaders are promising.
Maybe, but even then it would take years to actually ramp up the military production.
Yes. Best case scenario it would be terrible if the US cut off Ukraine. But I think with a generous transition time eu could do it.
Could do what? By the time European military production is up and running Ukraine will be mostly Russian.
With current progression rate, Russia will need more than 50 years to capture whole of Ukraine.
With the current progression rate, the Ukrainian army will run out of soldiers in a few years.
