• CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml
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    12 hours ago

    Guessing you don’t live in the UK. Accepted we have many issues we need to address and further progress to make, but certain slurs ans language are unacceptable and can rightly land you in hot water. Meanwhile in America and some other places, folk are like “lol, n word”.

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      9 hours ago

      Even if we ignore all the dark shit the UK did to other races in the past in the name of imperialism, we’re still talking about a country that voted to divorce itself from a mutually beneficial economic alliance because it didn’t want to be forced to let brown people move there. They may not talk about it like the Americans do but the UK is still plenty racist.

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        8 hours ago

        UK did some dark shit in the past. No debate.

        Brexit is a whole different topic. Norway isn’t part of the EU, does that mean they are racist? You can hopefully see how weak that point was. Part of the debate was about sovereignty and economic decline. Whether valid, your implication that because 17m voted for that, they are all racist, is wholly wrong, shallow and child like black and white thinking. Some are, yes. I do know folks from right or left year voted for it who don’t have a racist bone in their body. You have to be able to handle nuanced debates though.

        You’ve completely changed the topic from slurs and what isn’t acceptable to a whole piece on racism and I think every country can do an awful lot more to improve, UK included. The point was, slurs in there that some are finding acceptable in other countries isn’t here. You’d get banned from football games for them or fired from jobs.

        If you just want to go down the “UK all bad!” You can carry on the whatabouttery/kitchen sinking on your own to make yourself feel better to protect your country and feed that nationalist indignation you got going on. If you want to go back to discussing slurs and acceptability, happy to welcome you back to the debate.

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          6 hours ago

          Norway isn’t part of the EU, does that mean they are racist?

          Norway wasn’t a founding member that voted to leave primarily to avoid taking in immigrants

          You have to be able to handle nuanced debates though.

          Easily the smuggest thing I’ve read in weeks

          You’ve completely changed the topic from slurs and what isn’t acceptable to a whole piece on racism

          I laughed at someone using the UK as their example of race relations done right. I laughed because it’s funny, because the UK is one of the most racist countries in the world. Slurs are not the only form of racism.

          If you just want to go down the “UK all bad!”

          Where are you getting this shit from? It wasn’t from my post, that’s for sure.

          to make yourself feel better to protect your country and feed that nationalist indignation

          Wasn’t doing that. This was all about you picking one of the worst possible countries as your example of the alternative.

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            1 hour ago

            You have missed the point completely. UK isn’t good but even given how bad you think it is, doesn’t tolerate the slurs mentioned (the whole point of the post). I speak about it because I live here and I’m shocked people even debating that these words are fine.

            What miraculous country are you from that is so free from racism?

            In a nutshell, I’ve said these words not cool here and your contribution is effectively “your racist country is so bad. Don’t talk”. Not the most helpful contribution ever. Who hurt you?