and the “CR” gives those acts the veneer of lawfulness.
No, it literally makes them legal…
The way it’s always worked is a budget say $X goes to Y agency.
This says “here’s $x, idgaf what you use it for”.
We expanded presidential powers.
trump can now say he doesn’t want to pay for Housing Assistance, he wants to use it to harass minorities with ICE and CBP, so he can legally just take money from one pile to another.
Which is why a shutdown would have been preferable.
Instead Schumer and a few other Dems decided only shutting down what trump doesn’t like is better than shutting down everything.
So we gave Republicans everything they wanted, got nothing in exchange, because Schumer wanted to kick off his book tour, it’s a book about how bad Israel is being treated, so that obviously took priority
So generally the leadership tends to be more likely to throw support to the other side and avert shutdowns etc. I don’t entirely get why but it seems like a fairly stable trend from both sides.
Yeah, not disagreeing. There are other differences too (debt ceiling - which has never been breached, vs shutdown - which is becoming a regular thing, if it isn’t already) - but my hot take is that these differences weren’t enough to prevent whatever “staticism” Schumer felt.
Clean CR would have been “statist enough”. GOP could do the statist thing of agreeing to it. Supporting the BS added by GOP to the CR is unacceptable, and unnecessary. The horrible gaslighting that polls showing slight approval of Trump means helping him harm Americans, is going to have him blamed for Trump’s evil. To this day, dismay over genocide joe gets justified for failing to stop Trump win. Lack of enthusiasm for DNC is going to be a continuing problem, that GOP can leverage the same way they did last election.
Aside from potentially being more conservative to begin with (and thus having traditionally being with Dems only on the strength of a single issue that was all important tot hem), there’s an element that I missed back during the elections that I think explains why folks would have thought that Drumpf 2.0 would not have been as bad.
So basically, it would have looked like the daughter who had a middle eastern Arab father-in-law would have been influential on the new administration. Drumpf would now be related through in-laws to both Jews and Arabs.
So I now get why those folks were so easily mislead.
GOP can leverage the same way they did last election.
The reality is far worse than this. There is a way, I believe a workable way, that I haven’t seen discussed anywhere (and I’m deliberately keeping quiet about it to prevent it from spreading to MAGA-land), one that I think would get supreme court blessing, that’d make any party other than the GOP moot.
good link thank you. Main takeaway was low information/politically disengaged people who voted.
Feminist/Queer supremacism/activism
Trump fanatics I know are obsessed on this issue. Young men understandably affected. Immigrants/blacks tending to be more religious than average could also have been affected. Tolerance and inclusion as a centrist liberal value, that democracts correctly support, gets them tainted by also having the supremacist vote. Low information/disengaged are especially prone to the disinformation of “supremacists vote left”. Also, the disinformation that a mexican was accused of rape, or a haitian accused of eating a neighbours cat works in racist smearing of entire groups, and a city/police/complaining neighbour saying the cat came back the next day is met with death threats to keep the disinformation/hate going.
Tricks in getting the disengaged angry are easier as internet evolves. Stupidity/reflection/attention span getting more negative. Even here, pithy/thoughtless group think comments on a paywalled article dominate extremely.
Cost of living
Low information/education voters will believe any lie over responsibility of President on everything. At the same time, war on Russia creating the inflation is a direct responsibility even if few people say it out loud, and Dem candidates were not going to say ending the war to bring prices down was path forward. Psychotic reaction of left/Europe on more war with Russia, and Trump is a puppet of Putin, is simply not a good mid term strategy, or 2028 strategy. Non corrupt high information voters will not help the evil self destruction.
No, it literally makes them legal…
The way it’s always worked is a budget say $X goes to Y agency.
This says “here’s $x, idgaf what you use it for”.
We expanded presidential powers.
trump can now say he doesn’t want to pay for Housing Assistance, he wants to use it to harass minorities with ICE and CBP, so he can legally just take money from one pile to another.
Which is why a shutdown would have been preferable.
Instead Schumer and a few other Dems decided only shutting down what trump doesn’t like is better than shutting down everything.
So we gave Republicans everything they wanted, got nothing in exchange, because Schumer wanted to kick off his book tour, it’s a book about how bad Israel is being treated, so that obviously took priority
Actually, I see a parallel here to the Obama era, when then Speaker John Boehner broke with the rank-and-file GOP to support a clean bill avoid hitting the debt ceiling limit (as per https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/11/boehner-backs-down-republicans-debt-ceiling )
So generally the leadership tends to be more likely to throw support to the other side and avert shutdowns etc. I don’t entirely get why but it seems like a fairly stable trend from both sides.
this is opposite of what Schumer did.
Yeah, not disagreeing. There are other differences too (debt ceiling - which has never been breached, vs shutdown - which is becoming a regular thing, if it isn’t already) - but my hot take is that these differences weren’t enough to prevent whatever “staticism” Schumer felt.
Clean CR would have been “statist enough”. GOP could do the statist thing of agreeing to it. Supporting the BS added by GOP to the CR is unacceptable, and unnecessary. The horrible gaslighting that polls showing slight approval of Trump means helping him harm Americans, is going to have him blamed for Trump’s evil. To this day, dismay over genocide joe gets justified for failing to stop Trump win. Lack of enthusiasm for DNC is going to be a continuing problem, that GOP can leverage the same way they did last election.
Ha, there’s your problem right there!
The problem is that those polls seem to be accurate. I was reading https://www.vox.com/politics/403364/tik-tok-young-voters-2024-election-democrats-david-shor ( archive: https://archive.is/S7mNy ) which explains how many younger voters are coming out as more conservative.
Yeah, some of those folks are starting to feel regret over that.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michigan-some-arab-american-voters-revisit-trump-support-after-gaza-take-over-comments/
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/muslims-who-voted-trump-upset-by-his-pro-israel-cabinet-picks-2024-11-15/
Aside from potentially being more conservative to begin with (and thus having traditionally being with Dems only on the strength of a single issue that was all important tot hem), there’s an element that I missed back during the elections that I think explains why folks would have thought that Drumpf 2.0 would not have been as bad.
https://people.com/politics/tiffany-trump-marries-michael-boulos-mar-a-lago-wedding/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ivanka-trump-tiffany-father-in-law-kusher-boulos-nepotism.html
So basically, it would have looked like the daughter who had a middle eastern Arab father-in-law would have been influential on the new administration. Drumpf would now be related through in-laws to both Jews and Arabs.
So I now get why those folks were so easily mislead.
The reality is far worse than this. There is a way, I believe a workable way, that I haven’t seen discussed anywhere (and I’m deliberately keeping quiet about it to prevent it from spreading to MAGA-land), one that I think would get supreme court blessing, that’d make any party other than the GOP moot.
good link thank you. Main takeaway was low information/politically disengaged people who voted.
Trump fanatics I know are obsessed on this issue. Young men understandably affected. Immigrants/blacks tending to be more religious than average could also have been affected. Tolerance and inclusion as a centrist liberal value, that democracts correctly support, gets them tainted by also having the supremacist vote. Low information/disengaged are especially prone to the disinformation of “supremacists vote left”. Also, the disinformation that a mexican was accused of rape, or a haitian accused of eating a neighbours cat works in racist smearing of entire groups, and a city/police/complaining neighbour saying the cat came back the next day is met with death threats to keep the disinformation/hate going.
Tricks in getting the disengaged angry are easier as internet evolves. Stupidity/reflection/attention span getting more negative. Even here, pithy/thoughtless group think comments on a paywalled article dominate extremely.
Low information/education voters will believe any lie over responsibility of President on everything. At the same time, war on Russia creating the inflation is a direct responsibility even if few people say it out loud, and Dem candidates were not going to say ending the war to bring prices down was path forward. Psychotic reaction of left/Europe on more war with Russia, and Trump is a puppet of Putin, is simply not a good mid term strategy, or 2028 strategy. Non corrupt high information voters will not help the evil self destruction.
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