https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/40454451/17490968 (archived)
Apparantly, some Lemmy user says I shouldn’t have been born? 🤨
The west managed a massive decline in population growth without such draconian policies, and the west was popping out 6-10 babies on the regular till very recently. Also, the reason people were starving, and struggled to find work, wasn’t because the proletariat was doing something wrong, it was because the elites horribly mismanaged the country’s agriculture, despite the prols, who are supposed to be the dictators, telling the elite exactly why they didn’t do things that way, and that this would destroy their crops. They couldn’t keep up with the pace of jobs requirements because they forced a broad move to urbanized industrialization, then poorly planned that transition, and it took over 20 years to course correct, because they refused admit they didn’t know what they were doing. A broad re-planning of this only came after Mao died, which lead to the arrest of the “Gang of Four”, and a following liberalization of access to information, allowance of academic freedoms, and restructuring of schemes to move workers to an industrial economy.
this person is literally a child lol
Meanwhile China is kinda doomed by the population pyramid unlike India which may eventually take it’s place.
The entire world population is headed that direction. Before long all it will be a massive issue world wide.
What are they even talking about
Also the one child policy crippled and is still crippling China to this day. Even in the US the population growth is faltering. Long term US residents aren’t having many kids and the only reason the population is going up is immigration.
This is something everyone should be discussing, no matter where they are in the political spectrum. There is no point in attempting to build a solar powered (or nuclear powered or wind powered) Utopia if there is no one left to run it. Your country and mine will be a quite chilly retirement home.
“There’s too many people! We must rule with an iron fist!”
“… birthrates have plummeted! We must rule with an iron fist!”
Forced Abortions and Forced Births are literally two sides of the same coin.
Governments need to fuck off, Let the women decide for themselves.
The one child policy may end up being the elephant that broke the camels back. Now they have a large aging population dependent on a smaller younger population to take care of them, and nobody has the time or money to go get married and have families of their own.
Now to be clear, I’m not saying that China is doomed, but in the coming decades the average Chinese person is going to be feeling the squeeze until that aging population is no longer a concern. They will recover, but until they do their economy is probably gonna suffer to some degree.
Knowing China they probably will turn to desperate actions that seem totally crazy to the rest of the world
Kill all the wild birds, that’ll do it…
When you have over 1.4 billion mouths to feed, you gotta get a little creative with your solutions, I suppose.
The Chinese pension system for agricultural hukou is definitely with investigating
The key way of helping population growth is allowing immigration, that’s what has enabled countries to flourish in the growth.
Population growth is only an issue if resources are hoarded and mishandled, which can be fixed with proper government regulations and giving parents time off, food, housing, etc.
I am basically an anti-natalist but I would be stupid to argue that mandatory requirements to fuck or not-fuck are needed or useful. If a country wants to have more kids it should try to ensure that those kids can grow up into a better country than their parents have it.
