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    I Boycott American products because I’m 3 ‘once-in-a-lifetime’ recessions deep and cannot afford them

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    there is problems with the buy european movement as outlines in other comments here, but as an American: please continue boycotting us, the chances of our government changing for the better are slim, but every bit of protest matters.

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    I don’t want to see you flying your colonial-ass flag Canada, I want to see you supporting small, local, and indigenous owned businesses. Be pro-people, don’t be pro-country.

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    Boycut companies with too much market power. They just happen to be quite concentrated in the US.

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      Pro-Euro vs anti-US. The “buy European” movement is generally occupied by a mixture of genuine anti-US protestors, as well as various European nationalists. Kinda like how cottagecore got captured by the far-right, the lack of a cohesive line is leading to some groups pushing Euro-flavored fascism as an alternative to US-flavored fascism, as far right parties increasingly gain ground in the EU.

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        You can’t generalize so much, the reasons are much broader. It is mainly that it is not desirable that a single country controls the largest part of the internet, and until now that the EU depends almost entirely to applications and services of the US, which, especially in the current situation and the policy of Trump, this dependency and subordination will have dire consequences. Is to promote the technology of european, to convert the EU as a sovereign state at the height of the eye with the current giants technologicas that account for all the market, many times abusive. Monopolies are never desirable, because they tend to be destructive…

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            The main reason, at least for me, is the mencioned. Too long the EU was the Frog, boiled by the US.

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    I don’t hate all Americans, I’ve met some really cool ones over the years. But I do hate its fake democracy, its vulgar, parasitic oligarchs, its deceitful propaganda networks and the lust for war and global domination that drenches all three.

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    I’m an American,and I boycott US products because they’re shit quality.

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    You boycot american products because you think you are american.

    I don’t because America is a continent not a single country.

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      Hi, nice to meet you. Where are you from? America. Oh, like Mexico or Chile?

      It’s always fun to see their faces :)

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      This. I’ve gotten some pushback on it, but I believe the US shouldn’t own the term “American”. I say that as a US American.

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        They don’t “own” anything. In multiple languages another correct way to name them is the equivalent of Unitedstadian, this is true for French and Spanish.

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          I hate this argument. The term America has been used to refer to the US for so long now that it’s colloquially the same.

          The term “USian” is just as bad as “American” if you really give a fuck about the names of countries because the USA is not the only “United States” they could be part of either. If you’re gonna try to find a word that is instantly recognizable as “citizen of the United States of America” why not just use the one that literally billions of people already use every day?

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    Anti-imperialism would make more sense. The US is not the only asshole… (Edit: Just the current worst one.)

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      When it comes to contemporary imperialist assholery the US is #1 by far. Since after WW2 they’ve been nothing but shitting on humanity, between the CIA installing puppet dictators to wars (open and secret) killing tens of millions. The list of countries they have fucked with is too long to post here.

      And now their former closest allies are annexation targets.

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        The USSR was a shitty little bitch during her heyday, too. Worse than the US? I’m not sure. Eastern Europe and South America probably have a major difference of opinion there.

        In the last few decades I feel like Russia may have the US beat?

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          If you seriously think either the USSR or modern Russia were/are worse than the USA, you need some perspective.

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      You think we’re the worst country on the planet at the present moment in 2025? Interesting.

      Edit: oh, ml

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      True and acceptable, however I don’t feel patriotic.

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        I don’t either in the typical “my country is the best” way, more like “my country is democratic and that’s why it’s good (also use your influence to make democracy more commonplace pls)”.

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          It’s mainly about fuck Muskytrump & cia. not generally all US = crap, valid only for certain collectives.

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          You just defined nationalism (“my country is better, fuck the others”) vs. patriotism (“I love my country and will defend its values”)

          And if they’re both rotten, well there’s always a common enemy.

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            Yeah, the problem in the US for an example is nationalism, not patriotism. True patriots would be fuming at what’s going on. It’s the nationalists that cheer on.

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              Americans are very good at cognitive dissonance and arrogance.

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    Not all are easy to boycott

    US products > GitHub, Steam (Valve), Dropbox, Oracle, nVidia, Intel, IBM, eBay, Amazon, UPS, FedEx, Pepsi, CocaCola, Microsoft, Google, Pfitzer, Nike…, Which of these support Trump and needs to be avoided because of this? Not even FOSS is a Guarantee. Gimp, GNU Project, Mozilla.org, TOR, even a lot of Linux distros are from the US

    Full list of US companies https://fortune.com/ranking/fortune500/?global500_y_n=true

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      apart from foss content in which you can simply pick the source code and compile on your machine, or fork or reverse engineer them, in some cases you can either p!rate it outright (hello, ms and riaa!) or have already well established alternatives in your country (sodas, online commerce platform).

      either way, you’re not taking down the u.s. by claiming ethical consumption. there’s no such thing under capitalism. the best thing you can do is organize and take down the system that enables big companies that own us.

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        Yes, FOSS can be forked and gut the code, if you know how to do it. With big apps with millons of lines it is not so easy, less for an normal user, apart to the subsequent maintenance and updates.

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          no one has got to do everything. the reasons that make some particular software bad for people using them sometimes cannot be simply addressed by technical skills alone, and politics here is the tool.

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            I always prefer EU soft if they are good alternatives, but I use also an californian search engine since 2 years, with AI, Andisearch, from a small startup, independent, own LLM, also against big brother companies and even surpassing the EU GDPR rule. Until now I found nothing better and more accurate. If a product is good, ethic and usefull, not biased by politic interests, the country of origin is irrelevant.

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        Yes, there are a lot of good alternatives out there, but the question is in which products it make sense to boycott. Those from big companies definitively, those from small startups and particular and independent devs or communities, questionable, probably not. Do you want to boycott Gimp? It’s from a californian organisation, for sur it don’t make sense to boycott.

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      You forgot AMD there. Intel alone would be super easy to avoid. But AMD is also based in the US. You kinda need either AMD or Intel if you want to own a useful computer. Or there’s Apple Silicon, but that’s still American. Qualcomm laptop offerings are not that great yet and guess what, it’s also an American company.

      This is all a lot harder to boycott than Coca Cola, Nike, etc. I can just buy local soft drinks and Adidas shoes. In fact I currently own Adidas shoes (I’m the kinda guy who buys one pair of shoes, wears the everloving fuck out of them, then buys another pair and the old pair gets used in the garage afterwards) and my clothes already come from European owned brands (that are probably made in Bangladesh or something, I don’t buy a lot of expensive clothes). UPS and FedEx aren’t hard to avoid either. Most of my shit gets delivered via Omniva, DHL or Itella.

      The x86-64 CPU monopoly that the US has might honestly be the hardest American thing to avoid. The cloud monopoly is even bigger and we all tend to interact with it in one way or another, but most of us could host our own shit on Hetzner or OVH if needed, so at least no need to directly give them money.

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          I don’t want to buy Russian or Chinese any more than I want to buy American. Rhea is interesting, but seems only targeted at HPC and uses ARM cores. Now RISC-V on the other hand… Damn I do hope it takes off. I suppose it’s dependent on software support as much as actual CPU support, so once I can actually buy a RISC-V machine, I’ll see if there’s anything I can do to widen RISC-V support in the FOSS world. I’m sure there are plenty of projects that will build without a whole load of modifications needed, but need someone to configure the build targets and test.

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    Does this mean Europeans will also boycott goods that they steal from the 17 countries they still have colonized?

    No? Oh.

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        It’s not whataboutism when my entire ideology is anti-nationalism. You don’t get it, do you? I want all of the Western imperialist nations to collapse, including the European ones.

        Your rhetoric is weak and outdated, still viewing the world through borders. You think Musk gives a fuck about borders? Grow up.

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        Right. But, I’m an American who strives to boycott goods produced by slave labor and/or colonization by my own government because I believe class solidarity transcends borders.

        The BuyEuropean movement is largely nationalistic and uninterested in class solidarity. Don’t get me wrong, I think the entire world should be boycotting American goods. Let the empire collapse, please.

        But, boycotting American goods while still exploiting the Global South for centuries is not a flex.

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          You will never convince a majority of Western people of boycotting anything for a moral reason.

          They boycott America because they finally feel threatened. Just take the W and let them boycott America.

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            You will never convince a majority of Western people of boycotting anything for a moral reason.

            And they will probably stop boycotting when the America fascist-meter drop from 100% to the normal 88%

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              That is very likely. But the American economy is feeble right now. Trump picked a bad timing to go on a tirade.

              American Evangelicals and Zionists are bankrolling European far right parties as well. Europe cutting off America is better for the whole world.

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      The post only says they’re “Anti-American”. It never said they were anti-American for any of the good reasons.