We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.
It’s not obtuse to point out that it’s racist to say that what the Chinese had 5000 years ago was a nation but what the Incas or Cherokees, for instance, had was not.
A nation is defined by a collective identity just as much as it is the government. The Native Americans are not the United States.
You compared the establishment of the PRC to the existence of Chinese people. I did the same with the people in the United States. I’m being respectful of the cultural differences between the European colonialists and the Native Americans. How does that make me racist?
Nobody is talking about the United States. This whole thread is about your quote from the Chinese government.
I didn’t compare anything to anything, I asked a question and have not gotten an answer. I have already explained how one possible answer of that question would be racist.
China said, “we have been here for 5,000 years, most of that time without the US, and we expect to be here for 5,000 more.” That’s some Teddy Roosevelt shit right there.
“without the US,” not “without Americans”
This was your comparison:
So China has existed for 5000 years but America has only existed since white peoples decided to start a government? Or are you cool with Native Americans claiming 50,000 years?
The Chinese people lived in China prior to the PRC. The same is not true for the European colonialists.
American people lived in America prior to Europeans too. That was my point.
We’re talking about the United States, not Americans. The people that created the United States were not Americans. They were Europeans. They didn’t begin to settle here until the 17th century. The Chinese didn’t immigrate to China to found the PRC.
No. We are talking about China and I asked a specific question. Now you are bordering on being racist.
You are being obtuse, and know that the natives in America are not the ones in political power.
It’s not obtuse to point out that it’s racist to say that what the Chinese had 5000 years ago was a nation but what the Incas or Cherokees, for instance, had was not.
A nation is defined by a collective identity just as much as it is the government. The Native Americans are not the United States.
You compared the establishment of the PRC to the existence of Chinese people. I did the same with the people in the United States. I’m being respectful of the cultural differences between the European colonialists and the Native Americans. How does that make me racist?
Nobody is talking about the United States. This whole thread is about your quote from the Chinese government.
I didn’t compare anything to anything, I asked a question and have not gotten an answer. I have already explained how one possible answer of that question would be racist.
I wrote:
“without the US,” not “without Americans”
This was your comparison: