The United States was added Sunday to the CIVICUS Monitor Watchlist, due to declining civil liberties.
    • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
      617·
      8 days ago

      Sure, but does it matter?

      Wouldn’t all human rights organizations just watch whatever violations go on without really doing anything, and without anyone really doing anything?

      I mean, I’m pretty sure the USA could orchestrate a massive death camp extermination and no military power would challenge them.

      The US are probably effectively allowed to go full Nazi if they choose to, as long as the rest of Americans who don’t want that to happen can either be ignored or crushed.

      • agamemnonymousEnglish
        19·
        8 days ago

        It’s a watchlist, not a task force. The scope is to inform international travelers of dangerous destinations, not make those destinations less dangerous.

        • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
          110·
          8 days ago

          Yeah.

          There is no tssk force, is my point.

          The US could start killing tens or hundreds of thousands methodically with no due process.

          The Europe would not attack.

          Certainly this new Russia wouldn’t, either. China wouldn’t. The rest of East Asia, the Middle East and Africa wouldnt. Australia and Canada wouldn’t. Some of South America might give a half assed attempt, if El Salvador were to be a huge death camp host.

          • agamemnonymousEnglish
            8·
            8 days ago

            Okay? What are the watchlist people going to do about that? They’re the diagnostician, not the surgeon. There are multiple different organizations in the world which do different things, it doesn’t make sense to blame an organization for not doing the things outside the scope of their power. They’re there to warn people and they’re warning people. Where’s your task force? No one’s going to swoop in to save us, this is on us.

            • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
              313·
              7 days ago

              All liberals are diagnosticians.
              There are no liberal surgeons.

              • agamemnonymousEnglish
                62·
                7 days ago

                Not seeing a whole lot of leftist surgeons around here either, so.

                • Comment105@lemm.eeEnglish
                  11·
                  7 days ago

                  Yep.

                  I don’t even like communists. I just hate how liberals handle these things. Or rather, how they don’t handle these things at all.

                  But I mostly hate that nuclear deterrence also effectively acts as a free Holocaust card, which means anti fascism has to come from within. But right now, their citizens are a little too far away from sufficient to drown the fascists out.

                  It shouldn’t have gotten to this point. They shouldn’t have elected Trump again. Noe that Trump’s 2nd administration is real and acting, it’s a huge problem that not enough people are laying on the brakes and stopping the enemy.

      • SamskaraEnglish
        8·
        7 days ago

        Yes, Human Rights organizations mostly document events. Lots of countries around the globe have long reports written about them with little consequence.