Proposed cap is a 5% non-permanent resident cap, and a cap of 1% annual population growth (416k). A 14% cut from last years numbers, a 53% increase over 2015.

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    That’s silly. Canada needs more people, and we will probably be forced to take in people from down south soon enough, if they have a hot/violent summer. We need to build up out of the current crises, not pretend we libe on the moon.

    Build up:

    • More walkable, transit oriented mixed use, dense and off market housing.
    • Fast track recognition of credentials of newly arrived professionals
    • Invest in interprovincial infrastructure: trains, renewables, smart grid, fast internet
    • A civil defence corps to prepare for climate resilience and emergencies
    • A civil service corps to rebuild and revitalize rural and indigenous communities
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    This deep into a housing crisis and a cost of living crisis, you have to cap immigration to housing completion - natural growth rate. Otherwise you will just exacerbate the issues, and we’ll never get ahead.

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        Which is… What the liberals are proposing aswell? See, the liberals and the NDP and every other party except the conservatives have the bandwidth to actually do multiple things at once. Bring the rate of immigration down and raise the rate of home building up, and then we can slowly increase immigration for those who have the skills we need

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          The Liberal and Conservative housing plans aren’t so dissimilar. The NDP are the ones proposing non-market housing solutions.

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            The Liberal and Conservative housing plans aren’t so dissimilar.

            There are similarities for sure between the Liberal and Conservative plans, but only the Liberal plan involves the federal government directly involved in the building of homes through the Build Canada Homes program. I see that as a significant difference that should eliminate some of the major friction that has prevented increasing supply.

            The NDP are the ones proposing non-market housing solutions.

            Indeed kudos to the NDP for addressing this directly.

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            The conservatives want the GST off ALL new homes. The liberals just want the GST of First time home buyers buying new homes. The conservatives plan is just a 5% break for rich people buying houses, the liberals housing plan might actually see the new houses being built as affordable for first time home buyers over 30yrs with 5% down.

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              Yes they’re extremely similar policies and even that isn’t as black and white, although the Conservative plan benefits rich people and companies buying multiple homes it also benefits old people downsizing and freeing up their previous homes.

              Both only affect new builds which are a tiny fraction of home sales.

              Here’s a good analysis https://youtu.be/x5pPxhTNmqA

              and another that includes the NDP

              https://youtu.be/1k6hWGQ83l4

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        Literally none of the “build more houses” they’ve attempted so far has succeeded on provincial, municipal, or federal levels. We have significant bottlenecks that cannot be addressed in any short period of time, so limiting the incoming strain into the system WHILE also building more houses is the only realistic path.

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          Okay how about: Build houses without worrying about property values. Capitalism should have absolutely nothing to do with housing.

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            I haven’t heard any arguments that maintaining property values is a bottleneck preventing more buildings. How does that make sense?

            I’ve heard that policies that crater home values can’t be chased (ie increased taxes on selling property, or other tax disincentives for houses to be so expensive or a vehicle for investments) but even those proposals don’t actually address the root problem of not enough homes.

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            We have to wait for the boomers to die. Their wealth is all tied up in their overvalued homes, it’s their retirement strategy. They’re never going to agree to anything that lowers property values provides affordable housing.

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          That’s because they keep trying to build houses whose primary objective is to be profitable for developers and/or investors. They keep building either suburban subdivisions or isolated condo towers. We need to be building to house people, not to create profit, i.e, we need to be building off market housing. And to make it work, we need to be building housing in transit oriented, mixed use walkable neighborhoods, not in car centric suburban sprawls.

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            I agree- we need more midrise buildings throughout.

            IMO Canada’s problem isnt one of feasibility but of desire. By and large, people dont WANT midrise apartment buildings. The vast majority of people want the white picket fence dream in a subdivision and two cars. I think the govt needs to get back into building housing on both the federal and provincial level, not just leaving it up to the upper tier municipalities. The housing that IS built by those municipalities typically is exactly what you’re requesting - less car centric, cheaper, midrise buildings. They just don’t build enough of them. If we can make enough of those buildings by the govt (who can ignore the low profitability of those builds), maybe we can make them desirable enough that people change their mind about suburbia. At the very least, providing apartments meant for a full family would be a huge step forwards compared to the current offerings.

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        Its more then that though. We need more then just housed. We need more hospitals more schools.