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Real witches are into astronomy.
Spoiler: it wasn’t
People are getting more right wing not less, though I appreciate the minority that rebuke this trend
Look, witchy shit is a delight and I live for Halloween, damn it.
I for one welcome our new whitchy overlords
Basic ass white women thinking them buying rocks and burning sage is a feminist uprising.
Is drinking pumpkin spice lattes also a feminist uprising?
Having a live laugh love sign is my favorite feminist uprising.
I get it, but also, women’s interests have always been othered and viewed as lesser. Unabashedly enjoying feminine coded things and rejecting the stigma associated is kinda revolutionary. It is feminist to say “yes, I like pumpkin spice, so what?” Women need to stop looking down on other women. Is a live laugh love sign my style? Not really, but neither is yellow shag carpet in the bathroom and that was popular enough for a time. Wanting reminders of love throughout your house is not a bad thing. These women, like most other women, are just trying their best. Let’s try to give them some grace.
Astrology is pseudoscientific, objectively false garbage. It should be othered and seen as lesser just like any other pseudoscientific personality trait garbage. “Witchy” stuff like crystals etc. is also complete nonsense. We as a society should seek to identify beliefs and practices that aren’t grounded in reality and treat them that way. Even if they aren’t inherently harmful in isolation, that kind of pliability where it doesn’t matter what’s true and what isn’t as long as it makes me feel a certain way is a recipe for a dumber and more dangerous society.
Live laugh love? I mean sure. It’s super basic, and I’d just as quickly make fun of a guy for having a “man cave” sign, but it’s at least harmless. The meme though is specifically talking about pseudoscientific horseshit and equating it to feminism, inherently equating calling it out with antifeminism. It’s asinine.
My comment started with “I get it”, and for the most part I do, but you are in a witchy community, so it seems a little strange to come into a space for that sort of thing and complain about that. My personal stance on religion in general is that it’s harmful, but I’m not going into religious communities and commenting that their beliefs are bad for society.
I personally do not follow astrology, or crystals or whatever else, but calling something “basic” as though there’s a problem with “basic” female interests is pretty anti feminist imho. The majority of (American) women don’t believe in astrology, so on its face the comment was untrue, but it’s also patriarchal in that they assume women as a whole are interested in something that they dismiss off hand. Proudly believing in and engaging in things that are considered “feminine” regardless of how others may view you is a core part of feminism. I don’t think it makes all “feminine” beliefs or actions correct or good, but it can make open and proud participation an act of rebellion.
While you partied, I studied the star signs.
When you were having premarital sex, I mastered the séance.
While you wasted your days at the gym in pursuit of vanity, I cultivated moss.
And now that the world is in fire and the barbarians are at the gate, you have the audacity to come to me for help?
Let’s hope nobody’s true nature is believing in middle school bullshit like astrology
The only thing these “astrology is inherently feminist” people successfully do is spread the myth that women are inherently all vibes and no proof.
I am so ready for the witches to overthrow the patriarchy and devour Kevin’s soul. Kevin has had his turn fucking up the world for long enough now.
Don’t yuck someone else’s yum.
Unless that yum involves repressing or hurting someone without consent. Yuck that. Yuck that a lot.
Men in the comments of a feminist sub putting down women for having beliefs that do not conform to their worldview… and they champion themselves as the harbingers of truth. Why target these beliefs, why here, why now? Is there an underlying benefit for you to dismantle this particular false belief?
It’s a cold, frightening thing to realize just how much of our “objective reality” is as questionable and unfounded as astrology is. The human mind works on fantasy and dogma. Overcoming that is perhaps an impossible project. What fantasies do you hold? Can you even stomach the truths that threaten to dismantles your world? Do you have the courage to seek it out? Perhaps being willing to say that the measure by which we deem astrology to be fake is itself a flawed measurement would be a good start, but what other beliefs would start to unravel?
Ah, no one’s going to get this point… this is why Nietzsche wrote for his dreams of the Frei Geistes, his own irrational beliefs. But modern Nietzscheans are probably the arrogant misogynists like those in the comments here, picking up his resentments towards women and conveniently ignoring his warnings against truth.
Go ahead, fill my inbox with dogma about how truth matters most. maybe if you fight hard enough you’ll be able to browbeat all of humanity into bathing in the blood of their gods. come on down from your mountaintop once more, Zarathustra, surely they’ll listen this time. dont delay, the bell tolls soon.
Nothing wrong with fun beliefs but the reply in the meme is super cringe and antagonistic/borderline hostile so yeah of course people are gonna be rubbed the wrong way.
good point! this meme invites us to consider why she is so hostile to Kevin. unfortunately the comments here all give Kevin vibes, rather than exploring the contributing factors to that hostility. it reminds me of how people policed the way marginalized people reacted to the world during the black lives matter protests. what’s so important about acting “right” suddenly when marginalized people react to power?
Honestly if it creates community I don’t see the issue
That can’t seriously be your only metric for judging a series of beliefs
No but when it comes to relatively banal things like astrology it is
It must be me, but I have a very hard time separating something like flat earth belief and astrology. The people who believe them, obviously I can separate those - but both are equally very wrong.
And it’s ok to be wrong about things as long as you aren’t harming anyone. If I believe we are all living on the back of a turtle does it really matter since Im not important?
I disagree, because that kind of magical thinking almost inevitably leads to some variation of ‘Turtle is angry! SACRIFICE!’
Believe what you want, I’m not here to police anyone. I do reserve the right to judge someone for their beliefs.
People believing bullshit in general irritates me, even more so when it’s used by people to exploit other people.
It’s just fun an quirky until you base your entire life on the lie and end up being exploited because of it.
I have a friend who got out of a bad relationship and decided to go full on into Wiccan shit, burning various things like sage, believing whole heartedly in tarot cards, goes to classes frequently on how to better read tarot cards, talking about his new goddess. I can’t take it seriously for a second and it makes me think less of them and their intelligence.
I get that it’s hard to deal with the realities of life
They are tarot cards unless they are edible and made from taro root which would be an interesting choice.
Hopefully you are self aware enough to realize you almost certainly cling to bullshit notions in regards to something as everyone seemingly does.
Fixed the spelling, good ol phone autocorrect.
I don’t cling to any spiritual or religious dogma, that’s for sure. I belive science (particularly the scientific method) is our best way of discovering the true nature of reality.
That still doesn’t mean you aren’t currently holding notions that are blatantly false. This is something that is true for everyone.
You sound like you need to work on being a better friend. If it helps her deal and makes her happy why do you care? If she joined a new church or started running marathons would you be equally upset?
Personally I use tarot to figure out my feelings because I have trouble getting in touch with them. I’m a scientist I don’t believe they predict the future. But they still help me.
It’s a male lol
Doesn’t make a difference in my comment.
I said the same thing, but they said “You can’t just excuse the Heaven’s Gate Away Team because it seemed like they were buds.”
Heavens gate wasn’t banal like astrology is though?
Wouldn’t be too surprised if the number of suicides influenced by each is actually comparable to be perfectly honest, but I was referencing your statement of “Honestly if it creates community I don’t see the issue” in particular in a numerous fashion, or what’s often colloquially known as “a joke.” See, the joke is that while Heaven’s Gate did in a sense “create community,” that isn’t the sole factor for determining whether or not it is “an issue.”
I’m big into astrology. I’m always looking at a fat dirt star every chance I get.
After I married a very strong and independent woman. I’m all for this. Women need to dominate and take their rightful place on the planet. Also have 4 daughters so might be biased
