Dehumanizing people for their objectively evil anddangerous, consciously chosen, and often acted upon beliefs is not comparable to dehumanizing people for their inherent, involuntary attributes.
If an ideology revolves around harming or oppressing innocent people, its followers are a threat to society and is undeserving of sympathy, compassion, or a place among us, and should be treated accordingly. People who actually act on those beliefs are even worse, and are deserving of permanent removal from society.
Democracy and human rights were only ever possible through violent struggle against authoritarian ideologies, and can only be maintained through the same. To advocate tolerance of those ideologies is to advocate the fall of civilized society.
I don’t care if someone carrying a black lives matter flag tells me they support the use of violence against fascists. That’s fine.
It’s when someone shows up and says that harm is the priority. I have no indication from this photo what OP stands for. And so I can’t help but wonder. Did he show up because he opposes Nazis? Or because he was looking for someone to hurt, and discovered that they were a permitted target? If so, I don’t really care what he does to Nazis, but I can’t trust that person to advance justice at all. Does that make sense?
Also, again: OP should be careful. If someone like that comes up to you and starts asking if you want to go put your money where your mouth is… they could be setting you up.
It’s when someone shows up and says that harm is the priority.
So basically no one and you’re yelling at clouds
And so I can’t help but wonder. Did he show up because he opposes Nazis? Or because he was looking for someone to hurt, and discovered that they were a permitted target? If so, I don’t really care what he does to Nazis, but I can’t trust that person to advance justice at all.
Baseless shit smearing
Also, again: OP should be careful. If someone like that comes up to you and starts asking if you want to go put your money where your mouth is… they could be setting you up.
Also not happening, he’s literally all alone on the street.
Also no one flying a flag like that is going to fall for that kind of a ruse, that flag is niche and a high IQ bar has to be passed to even find it, let alone fly it safely.
You’re just dredging up shit to try to make him and people like him look bad, and it’s not working.
I don’t think it’s small the way a lot of people assume. Way WAY too many people agree with a lot of the shit Nazis say and that’s how they gain power. It happened in Germany; most Nazi supporters were just regular Joes who agreed with their hateful shit. A lot of right wingers are like that.
Most people have already picked a side on the issue anyway. That’s what makes me worry and those two points together make me sympathize with OP.
You’re welcome to disregard everything I say, but please listen to season one of the podcast Alphabet Boys. It walks through, step-by-step, how a tough-talking conman named Micky Windecker collapsed the Denver antifacist scene in 2020 by taking cash from the FBI to try to talk protesters into doing or saying incriminating things and then getting them arrested. If you think you’re too smart to fall for it, that might be a sign you’re not.
You’re not understanding what I’m saying. Everyone here already knows shit like that happens – I saw it myself with my own two eyes – I am telling you that because of that, everyone who flies that flag therefore implicitly knows not to fall for such tricks, ergo it’s a baseless accusation you are dredging up to make OP and everyone who approves of OP look bad.
I really hope you’re right, dude. If this is how defensive you get when someone offers you advice to keep you safe, I doubt you are. But I hope I’m wrong.
Also no one flying a flag like that is going to fall for that kind of a ruse, that flag is niche and a high IQ bar has to be passed to even find it, let alone fly it safely.
Dehumanizing people for their objectively evil anddangerous, consciously chosen, and often acted upon beliefs is not comparable to dehumanizing people for their inherent, involuntary attributes.
If an ideology revolves around harming or oppressing innocent people, its followers are a threat to society and is undeserving of sympathy, compassion, or a place among us, and should be treated accordingly. People who actually act on those beliefs are even worse, and are deserving of permanent removal from society.
Democracy and human rights were only ever possible through violent struggle against authoritarian ideologies, and can only be maintained through the same. To advocate tolerance of those ideologies is to advocate the fall of civilized society.
I think you’ve misread my comment.
I don’t care if someone carrying a black lives matter flag tells me they support the use of violence against fascists. That’s fine.
It’s when someone shows up and says that harm is the priority. I have no indication from this photo what OP stands for. And so I can’t help but wonder. Did he show up because he opposes Nazis? Or because he was looking for someone to hurt, and discovered that they were a permitted target? If so, I don’t really care what he does to Nazis, but I can’t trust that person to advance justice at all. Does that make sense?
Also, again: OP should be careful. If someone like that comes up to you and starts asking if you want to go put your money where your mouth is… they could be setting you up.
So basically no one and you’re yelling at clouds
Baseless shit smearing
Also not happening, he’s literally all alone on the street.
Also no one flying a flag like that is going to fall for that kind of a ruse, that flag is niche and a high IQ bar has to be passed to even find it, let alone fly it safely.
You’re just dredging up shit to try to make him and people like him look bad, and it’s not working.
He has sort of a point buried deep in there; He’s just not making it well.
Partly that any press is good press. Nazis are (still) a small enough subculture that it’s not worth advertising them as the main counterculture.
I don’t think it’s small the way a lot of people assume. Way WAY too many people agree with a lot of the shit Nazis say and that’s how they gain power. It happened in Germany; most Nazi supporters were just regular Joes who agreed with their hateful shit. A lot of right wingers are like that.
Most people have already picked a side on the issue anyway. That’s what makes me worry and those two points together make me sympathize with OP.
You’re welcome to disregard everything I say, but please listen to season one of the podcast Alphabet Boys. It walks through, step-by-step, how a tough-talking conman named Micky Windecker collapsed the Denver antifacist scene in 2020 by taking cash from the FBI to try to talk protesters into doing or saying incriminating things and then getting them arrested. If you think you’re too smart to fall for it, that might be a sign you’re not.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alphabet-boys/id1668980612
You’re not understanding what I’m saying. Everyone here already knows shit like that happens – I saw it myself with my own two eyes – I am telling you that because of that, everyone who flies that flag therefore implicitly knows not to fall for such tricks, ergo it’s a baseless accusation you are dredging up to make OP and everyone who approves of OP look bad.
And we’re not falling for it
I really hope you’re right, dude. If this is how defensive you get when someone offers you advice to keep you safe, I doubt you are. But I hope I’m wrong.
AND they watched Rick and Morty this morning!
While you watched The Lovely Bones and whacked it when the little girl’s body was stuffed in a safe