• Jumper775@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      It’s not only much cheaper to not have a caffeine addiction, but it also I think makes me much more present as I don’t need caffeine in the mornings to function, and I get enough sleep. Just seems better to me.

      • newIdentity
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        1 year ago

        No time for sleep when you either

        1. Need to work till 17:00 and then also do need to do even more when you’re home

        Or

        1. Party the whole night
      • PsychedSy
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        1 year ago

        I just love super strong flavors. I drink ice water throughout the day after my breakfast, though.

    • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      imagine if this whole thing was about cigarettes. id imagine people would be questioning why it wasnt age restricted sooner. caffeine and nicotine are practically the same type of addiction, but one of them is legal for almost anybody to get and the other is getting banned more and more

      • Bernie Ecclestoned
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        1 year ago

        What’s the harm from caffeine though?

        I grind beans for coffee in the morning, then move onto tea. It’s got L-theanine in as well as caffeine.

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31758301/

        When I was a teenager, we were shotgunning beers and smoking hash. A lot worse than a few energy drinks a month.

        • C.Ezra.M@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          Only those energy drinks that have artificially added caffeine or taurine are going to have their sales restricted to those over 18.

        • Fr❄stb☃️te@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          When I was a teenager, we were shotgunning beers and smoking hash. A lot worse than a few energy drinks a month.

          When I was a teenager, I started drinking coffee before I went to school. Everyone was still half asleep and I couldn’t sit still as coffee was my energy drink. I regret it now because I need more caffeine to wake up.

        • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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          1 year ago

          not having caffeine for a few days gives withdrawal effects same as nicotine withdrawal effects (not exactly the same, but same idea if you get what im trying to convey)

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            1 year ago

            Yeah but there aren’t severe short term or long term effects from drinking caffeine, as there are with cigarettes. Insomnia and increased blood pressure but that’s about it, isn’t it? Smoking causes immediate infections and many long terms issues including lots of different types of cancer.

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              1 year ago

              short term effects trouble sleeping, irregular heartbeat, restlessness etc. etc. can trigger panic attacks to people who are prone to them and potentially can kill children

              long term are insomnia, constant anxiety (i have witnessed first hand caffeines effects on anxiety. it sucks to see), depression, stomach problems, high blood pressure, and it also has problems when used during pregnancy and breast feeding

              so yeah to me its a little weird how normal caffeine is in life to where it is almost unrestricted where i live while nicotine has flavor bans

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        1 year ago

        Caffeine is pretty easy to quit though. Cigarettes aren’t.

        Also caffeine isn’t as harmful as cigarettes.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          It’s harder to quit than you think for some people. Any addiction can be hard to give up. And you do feel like shit if you stop using caffeine cold turkey after drinking 12 cups of coffee a day.

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              Maybe. I don’t know. I think it depends on the person. I quit cigarettes cold turkey and have never touched another one since. My wife had to quit over months. We both smoked for the same amount of time and smoked about the same number a day.

              Now I don’t feel I need to quit caffeine. I have a big mug of tea in the morning and that’s it. But I can see someone who drinks coffee constantly, and I’ve known people like that, having a much harder time quitting that than I did quitting smoking.

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              1 year ago

              OP referenced nicotine not cigarettes specifically. Things like vaping and chew fall into this category too and both have been restricted in many parts of the world over the last few years “for the children.”