My post got banned for being “wrecker behaviour”. I don’t know the community here, I joined because people said Hexbear is trans friendly, can someone explain the terminology? Google has other people using the word but nobody explaining it

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      Ah. So, suppose we lived in a sexist society where oppression of women was normal, and not seen as a problem, as divisive, or as a dispute by most people. In this hypothetical society, if a woman were to say “misogyny is bad”, and to be perceived as sowing division and starting disputes, then would she be considered a wrecker?

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        Marxism is about uniting the forces of change, and keeping them united and strong so that they can fight and win a revolution. Read Mao’s Little Red Book.

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        Yes. Wrecker is without ideology in this definition. In so far as the woman would be deliberately implanting herself in and wrecking misogynistic communities, then I would say it is consistent with your example.

        The same tactics can be employed against our ideological enemies in the same way they are used against us.

        Engaging in wrecker behaviour in online and offline reactionary spaces is dangerous, due to the risk of doxxing and coming to personal harm, so I don’t think it’s as regularly employed by leftists.

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          I mean what if she said that as a member of society? Like at her job, or at the christmas family dinner? Would she be a wrecker? What if the mainstream left and the mainstream right in her society were both misogynist and there weren’t any non-misogynist spaces anywhere?

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            No, I personally would not consider that wrecker behaviour. We could debate the boundaries of what is considered an organisation which can be ‘wrecked’, but I don’t think that’s productive right now.

            I imagine that if she were to find a place that weren’t misogynistic, she would consider her conduct within that structure and work to support it both against internal and external attacks.

            Wrecker behaviour which detracts from this is directly or indirectly doing the work of the misogynists.

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              So you’re saying that if society in its entirety is hostile and oppressive to a minority, then existing as a member of that minority and demanding rights isn’t wrecking?

              How would a minority go about defending themself if they were accused of wrecking for being oppressed and wanting it to stop?