“It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views,” Jean-Pierre said. “There is no ‘yes or no’ answer to this, it is complicated. There is a rule that the Department of Education [DOE] has put forward, and we’re going to let that process move forward, and again, we want to make sure that while we establish guardrails with this rule, we also prevent discrimination, as well, against transgender kids. But again, a complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that.”
“Absolutely no reason for the Biden admin to do this,” New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “It is indefensible and embarrassing. The admin can still walk this back, and they should. It’s a disgrace.”
“Honestly, this move by Biden to push a rule on trans kids in sports is not only a backwards betrayal, it [forces] us to have to spend our time dealing with god d*** sports instead of criminal bans on our healthcare,” Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and LGBTQ+ advocate, wrote. “He could have just done nothing. This is legitimizing transphobia.”
The mOsT PrOgReSsIvE Administration in History™ 
“A complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that” Fuck off out of here with that “centrist” nonsense. There’s nothing complicated about it, and it’s not an issue unless you want to turn it into one and want to appeal to people’s emotions like Republicans are doing. It was only a matter of time before they’d start throwing trans people under the bus. I guess with the coming elections it’s as good a time as ever.
So, you think voting for a Republican or not voting is going to get the job done?
oh my god THE WORLD ISN’T REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT
THEY’RE BOTH STUPID FUCKS THAT ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME FASCIST COIN
no, democrats have demonstrated repeatedly that they are unwilling to do anything. you would be a fool to vote for them over and over again after seeing their incompetence and unwillingness to even slightly push back against the reactionary policies being enacted under biden
The Democratic Party has room for improvement, sure, but it’s also the only party with room for improvement. On this issue, not voting is the same as voting for a Republican. That surely won’t get you any improvement.
Yes and this it the room
no, not voting is just not voting. voting for the republican party is voting for the republican party. and from where im standing, the difference between dems and republicans is negligible. the dems arent offering any “improvement”
The Republicans are salivating over the prospect of you not voting. Exactly what they want.
further exploiting and oppressing the working class is exactly what the republicans want. and the dems are united w them in that
Thise two parties are nothing alike.
Both support US imperialism, both support killing homeless people, both support exploiting workers, both support and uphold slave owners (our great founders)/American history which inspired Nazism, and clearly neither genuinely support LGBTQ people.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1912/nov/09.htm
You’re right
Conservatives stab you in the face
Liberals slip it into your spine
how are they different when theyre both capitalist neoliberal warmongers
Hey now, they screw the young too
Who broke the rail strike? Who bombed the Balkans?
Except for the acknowledged bipartisan policy consensus
there’s a famous line that the US is a one party state but in typical American extravagance, we have two of them. both parties serve capital. you are not the core demographic of either party. they can and will fuck you over if it makes their benefactors a quick buck. the Republicans move the political needle rightwards and the Democrats act as a ratchet to prevent any kind of real left politics in this country. both parties must be destroyed.
the dems are salivating over the prospect of useful idiots like you voting for them election after election after decades of failing to deliver on any of their promises because “it’s complicated.” Exactly what they want.
The dems also. The less voters they less they have to spend on marketing. Imagine if they proposed one popular thing. They would have the election in the bag. That is all it would take, one broadly popular position. They are so opposed to democracy that people generally being in favor of a thing is not reason enough for them to enact a policy. They would rather spend donation money proping up GOP candidates than legalizing weed nationally or whatever.
The Democratic party doubled Trump’s deportation numbers, gave the police record funding and has now ceded trans rights to the right
There is no room for improvement and no point in voting in national elections, we warned you motherfuckers but you didn’t listen, now eat shit dem
Actually since the democrats are republicans, by not voting for democrats I’m voting for democrats
I hear the same thing from both parties, therefore not-voting must be the same as voting for both parties, which counts as voter fraud.
So you think that rewarding the Democrats for having the only standard be “Our senile, racist, rapist, corrupt, reactionary war criminal doesn’t have an orange spray tan” is going to “get the job done”? Or just the entire party being the polite, norms-respecting Republicans.
I think it’s the only party that does not vilify LGBTQ people, so I’ll keep voting for them for that reason and many others.
You’re right. They are more of the Uvalde Cops to the Republicans school shooter. Even when they nominally have power they wont even rhetorically fight back, let alone use that power, to defend LGBTQ people in any way.
I understand your frustration, but not voting or voting for a Republican will just make matter worse. There’s surely room for improvement among Democrats, but it’s also the only party with room for improvement.
Because the democrats have done so fucking much to stop the republicans. Hell, if they get any worse, they could send them a mean letter!
No one here is voting Republican. The fact that you’re including that as a possibility is a massive indication that you don’t understand what we’re on about.
There’s room for improvement? Are you sure? What are you basing that on? It must be vibes cause it sure as fuck doesn’t follow with the transphobic statements of
brandon’s handlers.
No, ignoring the extremely limited efficacy and right-wing bias of electoralism, their entire point is just being the “Not Republican Party”. As long as they can only offer that and nothing else, and still be electorally competitive, they never have to improve and will actively fight against improvement. Additionally, they actually do more to aid the Republicans and right-wing agenda as long as they are really ineffective and out-of-touch and in people’s minds voting for them is the only real opposition the Republicans, while constantly capitulating to Republicans on issues like trans rights. But ultimately, this is why the Republicans are much more responsive to what their base wants, since even if they are reactionary, and can somewhat generate the culture war issues, they are the only party offering a positive agenda. (Positive in the sense of a politics of making changes and advancing agendas rather than just saying that the other party is worse. Not saying their agenda is good, obviously)
So, yes, there is some times, particularly on close elections or local elections where you can get improvement by voting Democrat over some Q-anon or MAGA psycho. But you also have to admit, especially with Federal elections, not voting for Democrats is not really making things worse or doing less “harm mitigation” than voting for a Biden, or whatever right-wing bigot the Democrats throw up next. Especially if, even on things like LGBTQ rights, they immediately capitulate and take the Republican position, just with more polite rhetoric.
There’s plenty of room for improvement to be very diplomatic about it. But you seem to mistake room for improvement with actual improvement. Who cares if the democrats could theoretically do better when they patiently and consistently don’t? What good is this void of unrealised improvement doing anybody?
Either you believe that the mere existence of room for improvement is a material gold, which makes no sense. Or you believe that there exists a mechanism for getting the democrats to realise that improvement, a way of pursuing then left. How this is going to work remains a mystery and believing that the democrats will improve tomorrow seems more like a coping mechanism than anything that is likely to actually happen.
might wanna check the OP you’re posting on before you.trot that take out there chief
Tenderqueer moment. Unable to see how the US reactionary political system systemically undermimes queer folks who are most likely to be marginalized. But poor/unhoused BIPOC queers should wait their turn, right?
There are only two state sponsored parties (of the bourgeoisie and those they induct) and a corrupt electoral college. What other parties are there? The Republican party has devolved into mask off facism and the democratic party is concerned with their own positions.
You’re literally commenting on a post about democrats being incompetant and unwilling. Don’t you think that might lead some to think they don’t actually care about queer people but instead their own clout chasing?
Sure. Some might think that. But there is still lightyears between those two parties when it comes to LGBTQ priorities. Republicans are just hoping your frustration will cause you to stay home on election day.
If you are the most pro-lgbt person, but don’t do anything that defends them, you’re not an ally, you’re a fucking patsy
Ok. You stay home on election day or vote for a Republican. See where that gets you.
It would be the same place as if I had voted democrat
And you seem to think us party cadres believe in electoralism
you are mistaken
They are not the same and you know it.
there’s a democrat in the white house right now. this is what voting dem got us.
You do know what Congress does, right? The WH is not almighty. Most new laws require congressional approval with 60 votes in the Senate and a majority in the House. Republicans are blocking both.
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This is literally about the Democrats being worthless craven shitheads as usual. I’m writing in Hillary again in 2024, fuck you.
It’s her turn.
No they’re not. You have conservative think tanks with a detailed plan about how they’re going to make being trans illegal in the US and you have literally nothing from the leader of the Democrats who is supposedly different in their priorities with queer folk. There hasn’t been any serious attempt at pushback against states criminalizing and going after trans youth. And in the context of years and years of conservative laws across the country eroding our right to exist, they release a statement like this. There is no difference between these people. They just want to be able to call themselves allies because they think it builds character for themselves. Allies cannot dictate our liberation and allies will just as quickly silence their support of us when it becomes a little uncomfortable while we are still here and we still have to live in this shitty country.
But tell me how it’s all according to keikaku and that the Dems are actually totally on our side guys, just ignore the last 70 years of history.
Which LGBTQ priorities? When Biden talks about the rights of queer people, the only thing he brings up is gay marriage when the GOP openly talks about ending the right of trans people to exist as ourselves in public, whi9ch if you knew anything about our lifes and how we need to lead them you’d recognize as openly genocidal. Biden is a coward who doesn’t even dare to say the word trans in public while DeSantis and Abbot are already making lists of trans people. What he has done instead is this shit we’re discussing here, when he could’ve opened up planned parenthood clinics on federal land to guarantee access to free abortion and gender affirming care in red states, could’ve stepped in when Florida "legalized abducting trans kids out of state for forced conversion therapy*, could’ve coordinated the isolated efforts of some democrats on the state level to create asylum states for trans people etc. etc.
Instead, he is tiptoeing around the “complicated issue” if people like me should have basic human rights.
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You guys are unironically basically just as bad as the republicans
as a trans woman, your concern is worthless to me.
but no its the queer people who are wrong on this issue, not you
What thread do you think you’re posting on you dumb fuck?
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Voting for Democrats means you are actually voting for Republicans because Democrats do whatever Republicans want, serve the same class, and are themselves Republicans. So not voting is actually harm reduction. Voting just helps Republicans.
yep, straight facts
What is the job that needs to get done?
yes, if the democrats won’t earn our votes, we’ll withhold them. it’s not like a democrat in office meaningfully slows down the pace of fascism.
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Withhold and help the Republicans.
the democrats are helping the republicans far better than I ever could.
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