If so, was it polled somewhere?

  • cacheson
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    So I was just looking through literature.cafe a bit, and came across this excellent comment chain by Janvier. It outlines the history and culture of Hexbear, and makes a very solid argument for defederating them.

    TL;DR- Don’t defederate Hexbear because they’re a bunch of genocide-apologist authoritarians. Defederate them because they’re annoying, and will burn out your moderators.

  • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    Hexbear recently federated with sh.itjust.works, I don’t know if it was polled on your side or what. But on Hexbear’s side there was a thread to discuss it.

  • @[email protected]
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    Sucks for you guys. They caused nothing but trouble when they were still federated with Blahaj.

    After so many of us complained about how they were being dicks and many on the instance weren’t feeling comfortable, hexbear decided to defederate from us first since they somehow said it wasn’t safe for their LGBT members to be on it.

    Funny enough a few days later a new account started posting across different lemmy instances for days about how the Blahaj instance was anti trans and that the admin was too. Our Admin is openly trans :/

    The whole argument started because the user said everything had to be political and wouldn’t stop insulting others who said they didn’t want to have every post on Blahaj to turn political.

    It was just too perfect timing how a few days after hexbear defedarated for somehow saying the pro LGBT instance was anti-LGBT, that we got a brand new account attacking trans members while sayin they were anti-trans.

    Enjoy your new people.

  • @SharkEatingBreakfast
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    I don’t mind the general hexbear ideology in itself. Sure. You do you.

    But, damn, I see more than a few of its members just being obnoxious.

  • @can
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    They added us to their whitelist.

  • @[email protected]
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    Opinion of one of the admins regarding hexbear, just so you guys know where they stand:

    In my view, the hexbear community is actually a positive force on this platform. They are frequently abrasive, but they ultimately have the potential to contribute to what we are building here. They are extremely active and some of them are quite intelligent. But they’ve also become accustomed to a privileged position on their own walled-in platform, and they need to be reminded that their views are considered ver extreme by the average person.

    • cacheson
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      I see a small corner of the lemmyverse…

      I see your instance…
      …alone…

      And a lot of defederations…

      Jesus that’s a lot of defederations…

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        They’re just misunderstood. Uh, yeah, misunderstood. That’s it.

        • RiikkaTheIcePrincess
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          Just mention them once, sixty or so will be by promptly to “help” you “understand.”

          …Then the rest drop by to see how much of a mess they can make of the relatively calm and sensible clusterfuck already present, because every question or comment absolutely must be met with a raucous cacophony of condescending crap.

                • @Kecessa
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                  Depending on how you browse Lemmy, you have to look at the user’s profile to see the instance they come from and yes there’s a whole bunch of hexbear users in this discussion. Although most are easy to spot since they have their pronouns in their username, some also don’t.

            • Throwaway
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              311 months ago

              Federation seems to be iffy sometimes. Maybe thats the issue?

        • @SharkEatingBreakfast
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          I think this is just a matter of imageboard culture that just can’t / won’t mesh with general internet civility.

          Leave Hexbear users to their spaces. My hands are washed.

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            Leave Hexbear users to their spaces.

            Normally I’d be inclined to agree, but the problem is they don’t stay in those spaces; they regularly invade other instances en masse, harass its community members and pollute it with pro-Russia & China propaganda and genocide denial, then feign innocence and use their high percentage of LGBTQ+ users as a shield. It’s really fucked up, and it’s happening in all the major instances in the 'verse. I mean, you’re right, they’re not gonna mesh and aren’t meshing well with other instances, but that’s solely because they go to other instances and deliberately start shit. We are leaving them to their spaces; they just aren’t reciprocating.

            • sj_zero
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              Either everyone calling each other hard r n-bombs, or everyone walking on pins and needles making sure that they don’t say something against the will of the zeitgeist.

  • @wildbus8979
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    Thankfully. Y’all can seeth, I’m here for it.

  • @MonkCanatella
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    Lol I blocked the most annoying posters from hexbear on this thread and now there’s hardly any comments. I think we should put them in time out. Like defederate for 15 days. if they keep brigading, another 15 days. I don’t really want to defederate, but I hate this kind of brigading.

  • @wtvr
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    This is such bullshit. Just saw the announcement that we aren’t going to defederate from hexbear. Why weren’t we given a say in this?

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    Pretty disappointing that @iamaqtpie is active on hexbear and says things like:

    Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that’s well underway over here.

    which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

    Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

    It’s clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it’s decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn’t this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn’t mean anything?