• li10@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    If they think they’re having any real effect on anything then they majorly need to touch some grass.

    This is the reality of their “dunking on user bases”

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      1 year ago

      There’s plenty of correct ways to criticize them, you don’t need to resort to ableist slurs my dude. We can be better than that.

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        1 year ago

        I’m autistic, and I don’t need you to be offended for my sake.

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            1 year ago

            What would you suggest instead? The word idiot? That has connotations for the intellectually disabled. Stupid? Same thing.

            • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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              i prefer vague connotations over explicit slurs that folks actually register as kicking down on disabled folks

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            1 year ago

            Absolutely!

            but in this case, I don’t see the use of retard offensive. If it was directed at people with actual learning disabilities, then yeah, definitely.

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              You don’t really want to encourage the idea that disabled = bad, and you can use it as an insult. It’s still racist to insult a white person with the n-word, because even if it’s not offensive to them, it carries on the cultural attitude that black people are inferior. The idea is to foster a culture that is inclusive to disabled people.

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                1 year ago

                Are you disabled? Since if you’re not, you’re not in a position to be lecturing if disabilities are good or bad.

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                  It’s subjective of course. Some people choose to believe that disabilities are bad, and can be used as an insult.

                  I choose to believe that abled and disabled people are equal, that belief is a core tenent of my value system, and I will lecture on it regardless of how it makes you feel.

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                    1 year ago

                    Being disabled is objectively not equal.

                • FaeDrifter@midwest.social
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                  It’s subjective of course. Some people choose to believe that disabilities are bad, and can be used as an insult.p

                  I choose to believe that abled and disabled people are equal, that belief is a core tenent of my value system, and I will lecture on it regardless of how it makes you feel.

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                    Man, I have physical disabilities and mental illness. It’s not equal. It fucking sucks.

                    I’ve tried to purge ‘retard’ from my vocabulary simply because it has been used terribly, but the point of view that is “All deficiencies are equal and must never be said to be bad” will lead to no criticism, much less hyperbole or humor, being able to be levied at all. I imagine that, should such sentiments take root in the common consciousness, they would snap back before long rather than create some doomsday newspeak scenario, but it’s terribly annoying to deal with it nonetheless.

                    That being said, I do respect you standing up for your point of view unapologetically.

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        Its to call people retards when theyre being retards. Its only an issue if they are actually cognitively challenged