• 0110010001100010@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I would also speculate that while Trump has been formally charged, he has not been officially “found guilty” yet.

    That’s the point of invoking the 14th though, it doesn’t require a guilty verdict. It was originally used against ranking members of the confederates to prevent them from holding office even though very few of them were ever convicted. Specifically section 3:

    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

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      1 year ago

      That’s some of the plainest language in the Constitution, to boot. I can’t wait to see the #GOP’s mental acrobatics in court.

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        1 year ago

        They won’t even try to justify it. They’ll just pretend it doesn’t exist and try to throw money at the issue until the right person takes it and makes it go away.

      • Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 year ago

        Probably something like “Um actually, it doesn’t count as an insurrection if the sitting president supports it” or “there is no government to rebell against during the election certification process.”

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        1 year ago

        I can’t find a source but I think the argument for the 14rh came from a republican think tank.

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      1 year ago

      Those Confederates you mention made the situation very cut and dry by clearly declaring their intentions, adopting a separate constitution, putting on uniforms, etc. Trump and his followers haven’t done that; rather, they position themselves as true American patriots fighting to defend the country against malicious actors. Simply invoking the 14th amendment and kicking Trump to the curb will play directly into his side’s narrative. We need to go through the courts to give the process legitimacy.

      • halferect@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        They do have uniforms and flags, have abandoned the constitution and have very vocally said they want a war against democracy.