• arockinyourshoe@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    “If I had agreed to their request, then spacex would be explicitly complicit in a major act of war and conflict escalation”

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t SpaceX be explicitly complicit in conflict escalation by interfering with Ukraine’s ability to defend itself?

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      1 year ago

      Couldn’t you say the same thing about power companies and the mail system? We’re taking about shutting off utilities to help/hinder those that align with ideals.

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      1 year ago

      “The best defense is a good offense”

      Looks like you’re right… I doubt the Russians agree with you though, lol.

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      1 year ago

      Well at the very least you have to agree, that he was in quite a dilemma. If he allows it, he interferes by action. If he doesn’t, he interferes by inaction.

      To him, and to me too, inaction seems more impartial, which is probably all he cares about at this point, and once again it’s what I would probably care about too.

      You can be mad at someone who is impartial, but at the end of the day, the only thing you are mad at, is them not doing jack-shit, which of course can be very annoying.

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        Not really since its already being used by the military, knowingly and deliberately provided.

        So he’s already active.

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          1 year ago

          Well now you got me, since I didn’t know that. So this guy then just lacks any integrity, which is not suprising at all.

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        1 year ago

        He had a choice in his hands with privileged information, then he chose the Russian side. This declarations are just justification to wash his hands, he is team Putin all the way, always has been. He has been seen partying with Russian oligarchs. The reason he bought SpaceX was because his original idea of buying dismantled ICBMs from his rusky arms dealer pals was too incredibly stupid to pull off, and it was easier to do it by way of an aerospace company.

        Starlink service was bought by Ukraine to provide internet access to civilians and the military. Technically it was provided by the US because Musk offered to, for free initially, though he later pedalled back to charge inordinate amounts of money. Which the US and UA agreed to pay anyway. Because single companies monopolizing entire control to fundamental services is a huge issue. War time or not. He is profiteering and unfortunately owns the only company that can provide this specific kind of service. But in strategic matters, he will always go to bat for his BFF Vova.

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        People just don’t get it. All they want is dead Russians. I myself would prefer humiliated and defeated Russians, not necessarily dead. All they have to do is capitulate and admit they are losers and ill be happy.

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      Elon musk is not a military entity. He is a private citizen. His taxes just like yours and mine are going into this war. But he is also providing starlink to the civilian population as a humanitarian gesture. Expecting every private citizen to get up and wield a weapon against Russia for Ukraine is not realistic, nor does refusal to do so make you complicit in helping Russia. Just like being a conscientious objector in Vietnam didn’t make you complicit in supporting the Viet Kong.