I’ve definitely turned into the paranoid nutcase within my friend group in recent years, I hate that everything is “smart” nowadays requiring an app/internet connection & account, just to do basic things that didn’t require any of that before.

What’s some things currently making you ramble like an old man?

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    Does School teach you welding? Does school teach you how to swim? Does school teach you thermodynamics? Does school teach you how water drainage systems are being kept in good condition?
    Want me to go on?

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      School did teach me how to swim, yes. Public school. And welding was also an option for kids who decided to go to tech school instead of regular HS. As well as HVAC.

      Yes, school taught me thermodynamics because it was a course I needed for my major.

      I’m not sure what point you think you’re making here…? Have you never heard of technical school? Vocational School? College?

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        welding was also an option for kids who decided to go to tech school i
        So you agree with me.
        Not everyone needs Excel and it doen’t need to be taught in school.
        If one needs it they will learn it when it’s required.

        Yes, school taught me thermodynamics because it was a course I needed for my major.

        That’s not School, thats University and it’s because you chose to take the course.
        You chose to learn it.
        It was not part of your regular Middle to Highschool curriculum.

        Lucky you, that they taught you how to swim.

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          College is school. Early education teaches you skills to be a competent adult …and so we don’t have a population of mouth breathers.

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            College is a chosen path. You chose to learn it. It is not a required course for everyone.
            Not everyone needs to know how thermodynamics work.
            No Plumber needs to know how to configure firewalls.
            No Secretary needs to know how to do plumbing.

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              So what is your argument then? “Not everyone needs to know Thermodynamics”. Maybe that’s why that is an advanced class in highschool. Do you just not like people getting a general, well-rounded education?

              It looks like an English teacher never taught you how a paragraph is formatted, Mr. I-make-a-new-line-after-each-sentence.

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                Are you just here to agree with me?
                Yes. Not everyone needs Excel. That’s why you learn it when you need it.
                That’s why it’s not on the curriculum and why it’s not important. That’s also why Excel and computer literate do not go with eachother.
                “The new guy at work doesn’t know how to use =(index …)” is of no indication of anything. Just teach him.

                Yes. Because Lemmy has a non-dynamic line width that everyone adheres to and a proper wordprocessor in its editor.
                I use lines because it makes text more readable. This isnt Latex, i am not writing an Essay.
                I am telling you people why Word and Excel are not life defining skills, that everyone needs to know.
                Why do children not learn how to use Latex anymore. How are they ever gonna be technologically literate when they cannot even use Latex.

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                  This is so stupid lol. Acting like Latex is used with anywhere near the same ubiquity of Excel. Good luck getting a job in any office in the US without basic Microsoft Office skills.

                  I don’t know if maybe you’re suggesting that shouldn’t be the case, but either way: it is.

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      I hate to burst your bubble but you have to go to trade school to learn the basics of welding, then you can grab an apprenticeship to learn how to do it professionally.

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        You proved my point.
        You go to trade school. That is when you have already decided to be a welder. Then you get an apprenticeship.
        And both teach you how to when you need it.
        Didnt need a schoolcourse on it.

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          But you said your job should teach you.

          I’m saying that your not going to find a job that teaches you unless it is an apprenticeship (which is not a common thing outside of trades anyways)

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            There is not a single program, that every job has as a requirement.
            None of my employees, unless they choose to, work with Excel.
            We have no Excel sheets. Unless someone chooses to.
            And if someone comes to me and has the technical skills required to do networking or low voltage work, then we teach him all the software we use.

            And nobody that learns the trades that i employ for learns networking in school. They learn it when they need to learn it, which is when they have already decided that they wanna do the job.

            No Starbucks Barista needs Excel

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              That’s because random Joe office worker doesn’t need to know networking to do their job. But they need to know basic Excel. I really don’t think you understand just how common spreadsheets are in just about every profession that uses a computer.

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          What university/college pays you a salary to attend? Or do you not understand the difference between “school,” and “career”?