Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis ® and the state’s surgeon general are advising against the use of updated COVID-19 vaccines for anyone under the age of 65, a move that counters a new recommendation from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Speaking Wednesday on a panel with other physicians who have cast doubt on the COVID vaccine — including some who lobbied Trump administration officials to back the “herd immunity” theory — Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo expressed concerns over the shot’s safety, saying incorrectly that there was “not a drop of clinical trial data” supporting the vaccines.
“We continue to live in a world where the CDC and the [Food and Drug Administration], when it comes to COVID at least, are just beating their own path in a direction that’s inexplicable in terms of thinking about data and in thinking about common sense,” Ladapo said.
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Their opinions mean nothing.
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I think his opinions are extremely usefully actually. I do the opposite of whatever he says, and am currently scheduling my vaccine right now.
Can DeSantis please fuck off back to whatever wetland he slithered out of, please?
Unfortunately, that wetland was included in the recent ~60% that were excluded, and is no longer classified as a wetland.
Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo expressed concerns over the shot’s safety…
Conservatives are not worried about safety at all. They are anti-mask, anti-distancing and anti-WFH. They are simply pro-sickness, as crazy as that may sound. Their actions prove it.
Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every single word. They are a plague in desperate need of a cure.
They just don’t give a shit about people getting sick and dying. Their goal is to convince people that everything is fine so they keep traveling and spending because their state’s economy relies heavily upon tourism to survive. Masking, distancing, work from home, getting vaccines; all of these things remind people that there’s an issue and maybe traveling and going to tourist spots to mix with all sorts of people from all over the world isn’t the best idea right now and they won’t have that.
If it relies so heavily on tourism, why did DeSantis start beef with Disney?
I’ve been to Florida twice in my life, both to Disney as the primary driving factor.
Once as a child on a family vacation.
Once in band as our yearly trip to march in a Disney parade. That second trip wasn’t a fun one, bit still the purpose of the trip was Disney.
They didn’t say DeSantis was smart.
DeSantis seems to be motivated by the acquisition and use of power. Enriching himself by flowing more money through the state is one way to do that. But if he feels that an entity (even a profitable one) threatens his power (Like by opposing him, or making him look foolish) he’ll still try to throw his weight around to try and save face/remind them who’s in power.
Desantis trying to kill off a few more of his voters this winter, before the primary season kicks off. That’s that herd mentality working for ya.
Is the math on this really just: ‘yeah some of your voters will die, but a few more will poll better for you by a few points’?
Or, less charitably, trying to kill some people under 65 to shift the demographics slightly.
This quack needs to lose his medical licence yesterday! He’s no better than Andrew Wakefield who DID lose his for making up the “vaccines cause autism” lie! Might be even worse!
Voting DeSantis is a Death Sentence.
I’ve never gotten covid, and I’ve got all the boosters. So far there are no 5g antennas growing out of my head.
So far there are no 5g antennas growing out of my head.
Did you get Moderna? The Pfizer one gives you antennas. The Moderna just makes you magnetic.
Nah, the Pfizer one just transes your gender. If you want antennas you gotta mix 'em.
Well how do you explain why I suddenly get full bars when I point my phone toward your butt?
Magic butt. Had it from birth.
So it’s safe for those who are over 65? Makes sense since the immune system strengthens as we age.
It is well known that older people recover from injuries and illnesses faster than healthy young people.
Uh, is his surgeon general compromised by Republicans or something?
I hope they both get COVID and perishes from it.
Lol, they’re definitely going to get vaccinated. This is just the doublespeak and hypocrisy they use to motivate their cultists.
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You also didn’t add to the conversation. And now, I haven’t either.
I would agree with you, but considering DeSantis’ politics, he’s making the world (or, at least, Florida) a far worse place. People like DeSantis is dangerous for a lot of people, where they could literally die due to his politics, which he is signing into law(s).
I don’t want people to die, but when you’re hurting people the way he does, I honestly believe the world would be better without them. I want Pootintin to die as well - his beliefs and politics have killed tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people. In Europe, the gas and electricity prices are growing steadily due to his, making poor people even poorer. There are elderly who has to decide to either pay their electricity bill or get food due to the russian fucktard. But hey, good thing I’m not a politician!
I don’t get herd immunity. Isn’t that just where everyone gets it and whoever dies, dies?
That’s not what herd immunity is.
Herd immunity is when you reach a certain percent immunity (through vaccine or previous illness) among a population so that it decreases the likelihood of infection for people who haven’t been/can’t get vaccinated.
Okay but is there any strategy behind it besides “just keep doing whatever you want” if you’re coming at it from an antivax stance?
Imagine you have 50 people in a room at a convention or something. Everybody’s greeting and shaking hands and whatnot.
1 of them has the flu and an aversion to covering his mouth when he sneezes ‘cause he’s gross like that.
For simplicity in this thought experiment, we’re gonna assume that this flu transmits instantly, and has zero incubation period. You’re instantly contagious as soon as the sneeze hits you.
Patient 0 sneezes, catching 5 people in his blast zone. Those people each shake hands and or otherwise infect 5 more people. And then they also infect 5 people.
5x5x5 = 125. But we only have 50 people in that room, so it’s pretty safe to say that everybody in the room gets exposed. By the end of the meeting, everybody’s sniffling and sneezing and the whole room is covered in a fine layer of snot.
Now, next meeting. Let’s say that 80% of the people in this meeting have had a flu shot, or have had this particular strain of flu before and are immune.
Our gross patient zero sneezes again, again catching 5 people in his plague spray. But on average, 80% of those people are immune and don’t pass it on like the first room did. Only ONE person gets infected. He sneezes, again catching 5 people. But again, 80% are immune, so only one person gets sick. That person sneezes and catches 5 more. One more sick.
Over the course of the same 1 hour meeting, the unvaccinated room resulted in every single person getting sick. In the 80% vaccinated room, only THREE people got sick. Even though only 80% of people were vaccinated, which is 40 people if there are 50 in the room, only 3 people, which is 6% of our room population, got sick.
20% of 50 people is 10 people. Even though 10 people were unvaccinated, only 3 actually got sick.
That’s the effect of herd immunity. Yes, three still got sick, but because of the level of immunity, some people who are at risk never even get exposed in the first place. As infections go up, even more people become immune, eventually strangling the spread of the sickness off to the point where it can more or less die out completely.
Granted, this is a simplistic example, but that’s basically how it works. If all of the people who CAN get vaccinated do so, then that protects the people who CAN’T get vaccinated for whatever reason, because the sickness never even gets to them thanks to all the other members of the “herd” who are immune.
It’s mostly meant for people who are immunocompromised and cannot get the vaccine, not dumbasses with their heads buried in the sand.
I think that answers your question, but I’m not completely sure what you were asking.
Yes. Its an insane stance but since the far right has gone hard against vaccines, its the only one they can take that pretends they are doing something.
Got my appointment on Saturday!
I’d advise holding off for another couple weeks, the new batch is effective against the latest covid strain, current one isn’t.
They released the new batch, at least in the U.S. When I made my appointment (at CVS), it specifically said “2023-2024 Moderna.” I think the non-mRNA one is still awaiting approval but Pfizer and Moderna are out.
“Once again, Florida is the first state in the nation to stand up and provide guidance based on
truth, not Washington edictsbrain dead ideas.”FTFY
Unfortunately, I just got my, what? 5th? 6th booster? Because of the new variants floating around and I have to go to a conference in Vegas in October.
I’ve lost track now, I’m on my 2nd vaccine card.
Oh, well you are definitely gonna get autism or catch gay for sure real soon, ya hear. Real dang ol’ soon! Just you wait! Then you’ll be begging President Trump to invent the real cure! He’s just been waiting for y’all libs to come crawling to him with tears in your eyes, crying and begging for his help! Checkmate science-lovers!
And the heart condition! No, wait, I already HAD the heart attack and open heart surgery in 2018 and the myocarditis in 2019…
I laughed so hard when they were going on about myocarditis… No shit it hurts like a son of a bitch. Feels like you’re being stabbed right in the goddamned heart.
It actually hurt worse than when I had the actual heart attack. But my doc explained it can be caused by ANY infection, take some anti-inflammatories and it would be fine.
