• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Buses, that makes sense. But never in the history of bike lanes has replacing a car lane with a bike lane meant as many cyclists using that lane as cars did before. Replacing car lanes with bike lanes in no way helps efficiently move people.

    It’s better for the environment, so I support it, but let’s be real here.

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      1 year ago

      Well, never is a bit of a strong word here. Copenhagen and Amsterdam have something to say about that. Now I’m not a fuckcars person, but I do see the value for those places. I am also aware that it works there because of multiple factors that do not necessarily translate well to other places, not just plopping a bike lane and hoping people won’t just use it for parking their cars. Oslo, for instance does not have the same infrastructure for bikes as Copenhagen does, presumably because they get worse winters?

      I’ll say this, though, I was extremely surprised to see a traffic jam on the bike lane and no jam on the car lane.

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      1 year ago

      Have you ever been to London? Because we have many many cycle lanes and it does help the flow of traffic.

      Ever heard of Amsterdam?

      I’m happy to be shown some examples to the contrary though.

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        1 year ago

        Did they add a bike lane? Or did they replace a car lane?

        I can 100% guarantee that any place that has removed a car lane and replaced it with a bike lane has people moving less efficiently. The math is inescapable.

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          1 year ago

          here

          here

          You can’t guarantee anything of the sort, but fyi many of the routes are from road lanes, it’s London after all not much room for lateral space, but many places have put them at the side of the roads.