Because everywhere I look, it’s just the same insane lies and mental gymnastics regurgitated straight from r/politics, with all the same refusal to even acknowledge the slightest of errors in anything they believe

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    If you do bigoted things (like voting for trump) you get called out for being a bigot. Who fuckin knew?

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      Funny how you have to resort to more and more lies. Proving my point endlessly

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        Can you point out where in that comment they lied? You keep saying this person is lying, in this thread specifically, but your responses have just been “you’re lying!!!” So please, what exactly about that comment is a lie? Genuinely trying to have a convo with you.

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          Having a genuine conversation with them seems impossible. They’ve made up their mind that they have to disagree with me, so like the conservatives in our government they just point the finger at someone and claim they’re lying without any evidence to back it up.

          It’s the exact same thing that’s happening with the Biden impeachment trials. They have no evidence, but that’s never stopped them from claiming anything

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            Probably, but I couldn’t help myself.

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          Well, his very first comment was a lie. I’m not here for people to say I’m right. He then followed up by saying my comments are not in good faith, another lie. He follow up by doubling down on these false claims. Elsewhere in his history (which is fair game since he decided to attack mine), he claimed that conservatives don’t legitimately hold any of their positions and are just making excuses for bigotry, which de doubled down on here. He claimed that I’m a bigot, which is false. His response to you is just a bunch of dishonest crap.

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            So you’re being genuine when you’ve told people elsewhere on this thread to kill themselves? You genuinely want people to kill themselves over comments they made to you? Is that what you’re saying? Again, genuinely asking.

            I’m not concerned about your, or their, comment history. I’m concerned with this specific thread, since you’ve said numerous time that they’ve lied specially in this thread.

            I mean, I can completely understand why people think that those that voted for Trump are bigots. Trump himself has said some very questionable and bigoted things. But that doesn’t mean they’re a liar if you’re not a bigot, that’s their opinion and they are allowed to have that opinion, just like you’re allowed to have yours.

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              So you’re being genuine when you’ve told people elsewhere on this thread to kill themselves?

              Yes. I believe the world would be better off without them. Disagree if you like, nothing wrong with that, but im of the opinion that fixing our problems in any real capacity is going to require that we stop putting the focus on being polite and proper.

              I’m not concerned about your, or their, comment history. I’m concerned with this specific thread, since you’ve said numerous time that they’ve lied specially in this thread.

              Sure, but the primary axis of his lies regard his claims about me based on my history. Primarily, that I have not made this post, or any for that matter, in good faith.

              I mean, I can completely understand why people think that those that voted for Trump are bigots

              If being a bigot is just a matter of opinion, what’s the point in calling people it at all? Might as well be just another insult if the criteria is just whatever someone feels like at the moment, especially if the person in question doesn’t actually meet the proper definition of the term.

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                So you believe that people killing themselves at your insistence is a good thing? And you expect people to take you seriously with that point of view?

                Not being polite, and telling people to kill themselves are 2 completely different things.

                I mean, words change meaning all the time due to people misusing the word. For instance, literally. Linguists have had to create 2 separate definitions for the word because so many people were using it in a figurative sense. Stupid is another word that has changed definitions over time. That doesn’t make people who use those terms liars, maybe more or less misinformed on the definition, or history of the word.

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                  So you believe that people killing themselves at your insistence is a good thing? And you expect people to take you seriously with that point of view?

                  Yes. I believe that society would be better off without these people. If you don’t want to believe me, that’s on you.

                  I mean, words change meaning all the time due to people misusing the word.

                  Sure. And if meanings change, we have to acknowledge the usage of the new meaning because trying to map the connotation of the old meaning to the definition of the new one. If bigot is just a generic insult progressives throw at everyone they disagree with, fine. But anyone engaging in honest discussion must also acknowledge that difference as well, and not then try to bring in the connotation of what being a bigot implies using the original meaning.