Every Pixel so far has been supported for as long or longer than it’s official support window. This isn’t a free chat app. It costs a lot and it comes with warranties and expectations for true spec sheets.
Also consider that the cost to do the maintenance updates has decreased due to extensive code refactoring and projects like Treble, Mainline, and the Generic Kernel Image. Major work in the platform has been focused on cutting these costs.
There isn’t one. Maybe Fairphone 5 but even with custom ROMs, running Play Services as a sandboxed user app isn’t possible. And even vanilla iPhones can’t be as privacy oriented as GrapheneOS is.
The person you replied to is being downvoted, and yes, expecting support from Google is a meme, and Google deserves 100% of the negativity they’re receiving in this regard.
But, in their defense, they have always kept their word on keeping Pixels updated, and in some cases, have added on an additional year of support when not originally planned, including an extra full Android update for older devices.
So while they eventually kill every new software product they make, they’ve always kept their word on Pixel updates. I think the Pixel team has a lot more resources than the rest of Google, so I’m inclined to believe them for now, but I’ll be one of the first people grabbing a pitchfork if they don’t keep their word.
Not to mention a lot of their killed apps/services are old versions. Like angularJS was upgraded to Angular V2.
That’s like saying Mozilla is killing Firefox because they released version 120!
Also a lot of the services were “killed” to combine them into one service. The thing people have been begging Google to do for years, to merge apps and focus on one instead of 10 separate ones.
Or the fact there’s hardware on there, like Google “killing” Google Home Max. You mean releasing Google Next Max? The next version?
That website is garbage, and anyone that links it is just being dishonest.
I have always hated it for this, but hating on Google is so popular that you can use what’s basically a website full of lies (of omission?) and get upvotes
They even include rebrands as killed, like what even… and I’m not talking about Google Play music, that was actually killed. One example is tez, the Indian version of Google pay that got rebranded to (you can guess it easily) Google pay.
To me they even refunded the months I paid for Ubisoft Subscription services I got on Stadia. Which doesn’t make sense as I did enjoy them and it’s a subscription… probably a mistake but I am not gonna complain.
I’m guessing here, but are any of those products on that website both purchasable AND given a guaranteed product support time? Or to make it more specific, has Google ever killed off a phone (Nexus and Pixel years, so 15 years total) prior to its end of support date?
I don’t believe they have. Stadia, a non-phone product, is the closest thing. Of course it’s not a phone and Google also didn’t give a eol date before its release. When it was killed they refunded any purchased games. So I guess the better question is would you be fine with getting a refund in the amount of your purchase of a Pixel 8/Pro if they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain?
I know some of the comments in the community are tongue-in-cheek, but if Google were to keep the prior support date or do what they did today by increasing them, folks still wouldn’t be happy.
I’ll believe this in 7 years.
Every Pixel so far has been supported for as long or longer than it’s official support window. This isn’t a free chat app. It costs a lot and it comes with warranties and expectations for true spec sheets.
Also consider that the cost to do the maintenance updates has decreased due to extensive code refactoring and projects like Treble, Mainline, and the Generic Kernel Image. Major work in the platform has been focused on cutting these costs.
Very well aware. Currently writing a HAL to cross Treble. 🥲
Maybe so, but those windows have never been close to this long, so I’ll believe it when I see it.
And even beyond seven years free data harvesting too!
Speak for yourself, that’s 7 years of GrapheneOS support! What phone do you use which you think is squeaky clean?
There isn’t one. Maybe Fairphone 5 but even with custom ROMs, running Play Services as a sandboxed user app isn’t possible. And even vanilla iPhones can’t be as privacy oriented as GrapheneOS is.
Tbh, it’s Google. I can actually believe that they stick to their promises.
Ahem https://killedbygoogle.com/
Edit: my tone was tongue in cheek, I hope Google will keep its promise, but you know, they did us a Stadia after all.
The person you replied to is being downvoted, and yes, expecting support from Google is a meme, and Google deserves 100% of the negativity they’re receiving in this regard.
But, in their defense, they have always kept their word on keeping Pixels updated, and in some cases, have added on an additional year of support when not originally planned, including an extra full Android update for older devices.
So while they eventually kill every new software product they make, they’ve always kept their word on Pixel updates. I think the Pixel team has a lot more resources than the rest of Google, so I’m inclined to believe them for now, but I’ll be one of the first people grabbing a pitchfork if they don’t keep their word.
Not to mention a lot of their killed apps/services are old versions. Like angularJS was upgraded to Angular V2.
That’s like saying Mozilla is killing Firefox because they released version 120!
Also a lot of the services were “killed” to combine them into one service. The thing people have been begging Google to do for years, to merge apps and focus on one instead of 10 separate ones.
Or the fact there’s hardware on there, like Google “killing” Google Home Max. You mean releasing Google Next Max? The next version?
That website is garbage, and anyone that links it is just being dishonest.
I have always hated it for this, but hating on Google is so popular that you can use what’s basically a website full of lies (of omission?) and get upvotes
They even include rebrands as killed, like what even… and I’m not talking about Google Play music, that was actually killed. One example is tez, the Indian version of Google pay that got rebranded to (you can guess it easily) Google pay.
Didn’t they give stadia people their money back though?
100% refunded the cost of the starter kit and any games purchased. (Not sure if microtransactions were refunded too)
They even made it possible to convert your stadia controller to standard Bluetooth through a free update hosted by Google themselves.
I really enjoyed the tech and used mine quite a bit. I’m sad to see it gone, but they actually handled it in a respectable way.
To me they even refunded the months I paid for Ubisoft Subscription services I got on Stadia. Which doesn’t make sense as I did enjoy them and it’s a subscription… probably a mistake but I am not gonna complain.
They sent me 5 free ones also. Now I have 5 free Bluetooth controllers and 5 free Chromecast ultras.
I don’t remember ever getting a refund. Did you have to apply for it? Is it too late now if I didn’t?
Sure, but they’ve “done right” by customers when they can. I mean, I received a refund for everything I purchased on Stadia, for example.
I’m guessing here, but are any of those products on that website both purchasable AND given a guaranteed product support time? Or to make it more specific, has Google ever killed off a phone (Nexus and Pixel years, so 15 years total) prior to its end of support date?
I don’t believe they have. Stadia, a non-phone product, is the closest thing. Of course it’s not a phone and Google also didn’t give a eol date before its release. When it was killed they refunded any purchased games. So I guess the better question is would you be fine with getting a refund in the amount of your purchase of a Pixel 8/Pro if they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain?
I know some of the comments in the community are tongue-in-cheek, but if Google were to keep the prior support date or do what they did today by increasing them, folks still wouldn’t be happy.
You literally still have unlimited Google photos on a Pixel 1. They keep their promises for sure
And you can get it on Custom ROMs too.
/s…?