They defeat it the courts… I don’t know, have some schmuck file a lawsuit and then have a republican led Supreme Court escalate it then rule its unconstitutional. That never happens though.
Yeah, that would have stuck. Though, I do fear the lengths they would go through to defeat an amendment. As we have witnessed its not beyond them to enlist nazis and foreign governments. I can’t even imagine.
I mean, there are ammendments they want to defeat right now. Those ones don’t have the spin of “baby murder.”
When could they have done that specifically? At what point was there a majority of abortion advocates in congress and a president friendly to the idea? Give me a year please. Because it sure wasn’t under Biden or Obama or Clinton.
How do you know how they voted to begin with? Maybe they didn’t vote for those leaders. You know votes in red states aren’t unanimous, right? So, again, sort of sounding like you’re saying they’re getting what they deserve…
Word. I’m here in Ohio and my wife and I didn’t vote for any of this shit. We don’t plan on staying here too too much longer, but there are hundreds of thousands here who also think the cheatin’-ass politicians here are ruining people’s lives but don’t have the luxury to move and are thus stuck here. Fortunately, we did show up back in August to block some underhanded GOP bullshit designed to kill reproductive rights, and hopefully will show up again in November to codify those rights, against their machinations.
I’m not talking about people who don’t vote, I’m talking about people who don’t vote for anti-choice Republicans but live in red states. It didn’t work out so well for them, did it?
Bro, as a woman in a “good state”, abortion rights (it’s not abortion rights, it’s bodily autonomy) did not survive. They are thinly-veiled and hanging on by a thread.
It took me 3 years, 5 doctors, and 2 ‘health care providers’ to be granted the right to sterilization and I was still asked “what if you meet a guy and HE wants a baby?!” multiple times. There were mental health councilors and board decisions. They insisted I would want more because I would meet the right man, even after having an abortion post-child. That was 12 years ago during the Obama administration in a dependable blue state. That shit is NOT sacrosanct and never was.
When a man slams his head into my window, and the glass cracks but doesn’t shatter, my response is not “He can do it again, no big deal, the window didn’t break”, it’s “Holy shit did I get lucky, someone stop that stupid fuck from doing that again”
You’re right. That’s not my response. My response is “Cowing to the threat of politically motivated violence is the death of democracy.” Trump goes to jail. What happens after that is immaterial - if the law does not apply to the powerful, even those who attempt to overthrow our democratically-elected government, then we have no democratic government. We have an oligarchy counting the minutes until their next consequence-free coup works.
A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn’t end well.
Other countries have also tried the “Defeat him at the polls!” method. Doesn’t always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid.
Is it really, though? The guy is a piece of shit but he was president for four years and America survived.
Did abortion rights survive?
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Thank God Republicans can’t repeal laws or selectively enforce them.
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They defeat it the courts… I don’t know, have some schmuck file a lawsuit and then have a republican led Supreme Court escalate it then rule its unconstitutional. That never happens though.
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Yeah, that would have stuck. Though, I do fear the lengths they would go through to defeat an amendment. As we have witnessed its not beyond them to enlist nazis and foreign governments. I can’t even imagine.
I mean, there are ammendments they want to defeat right now. Those ones don’t have the spin of “baby murder.”
When could they have done that specifically? At what point was there a majority of abortion advocates in congress and a president friendly to the idea? Give me a year please. Because it sure wasn’t under Biden or Obama or Clinton.
They did in the good states
Let me guess… the women in “the bad states” deserve what they get.
No, what happened to them is terrible and I hope every one of them remembers how badly their leaders failed them on election day
How do you know how they voted to begin with? Maybe they didn’t vote for those leaders. You know votes in red states aren’t unanimous, right? So, again, sort of sounding like you’re saying they’re getting what they deserve…
Word. I’m here in Ohio and my wife and I didn’t vote for any of this shit. We don’t plan on staying here too too much longer, but there are hundreds of thousands here who also think the cheatin’-ass politicians here are ruining people’s lives but don’t have the luxury to move and are thus stuck here. Fortunately, we did show up back in August to block some underhanded GOP bullshit designed to kill reproductive rights, and hopefully will show up again in November to codify those rights, against their machinations.
I’m not 100% on Throwaway’s side here, but I don’t think that’s what they meant.
You can’t throw away your only voice and then complain about not being heard.
You don’t vote, then you get exactly what you voted for, what other people want.
I’m not talking about people who don’t vote, I’m talking about people who don’t vote for anti-choice Republicans but live in red states. It didn’t work out so well for them, did it?
Well that comes back to things like gerrymandering, first past the post, non-preferential voting, no mandatory voting.
You get what you vote for, if the people who want what you want don’t vote then don’t complain that those who did vote got what they voted for.
Bro, as a woman in a “good state”, abortion rights (it’s not abortion rights, it’s bodily autonomy) did not survive. They are thinly-veiled and hanging on by a thread.
It took me 3 years, 5 doctors, and 2 ‘health care providers’ to be granted the right to sterilization and I was still asked “what if you meet a guy and HE wants a baby?!” multiple times. There were mental health councilors and board decisions. They insisted I would want more because I would meet the right man, even after having an abortion post-child. That was 12 years ago during the Obama administration in a dependable blue state. That shit is NOT sacrosanct and never was.
Not for long. They are all talking about a national abortion ban now
When a man slams his head into my window, and the glass cracks but doesn’t shatter, my response is not “He can do it again, no big deal, the window didn’t break”, it’s “Holy shit did I get lucky, someone stop that stupid fuck from doing that again”
Your response should also not be ‘Gunfights are good and easy to win’
You’re right. That’s not my response. My response is “Cowing to the threat of politically motivated violence is the death of democracy.” Trump goes to jail. What happens after that is immaterial - if the law does not apply to the powerful, even those who attempt to overthrow our democratically-elected government, then we have no democratic government. We have an oligarchy counting the minutes until their next consequence-free coup works.
A civil war is pretty damned far from immaterial. You guys might even lose! You have to defeat him at the polls, other countries have tried doing things the other way and it doesn’t end well.
Other countries have also tried the “Defeat him at the polls!” method. Doesn’t always work. There are no guaranteed defences. No matter what you do, it will be a risk. However, what is guaranteed is that without the rule of law, there is no real government, only elites and us commoners. Without the rule of law, we do nothing but trade time for another Trump coup attempt - or an attempt by someone marginally less stupid.
“Well, he survived the first plane crash, and subsequent explosion…he’ll be fine in the next one. Hey you remembered the double-barrel, right?”