Israel was taken by surprise by the most ambitious operation Hamas has ever launched from Gaza.

The scale of what’s been happening is unprecedented. Hamas breached the wire that separates Gaza from Israel in multiple places in the most serious cross-border attack Israel has faced in more than a generation.

It came a day after the 50th anniversary of the surprise attack by Egypt and Syria in 1973 that started a major Middle East war. The significance of the date will not have been lost on the Hamas leadership.

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says his country is at war and will exact a heavy price from its enemies.

Videos and photos of dead Israelis, civilians as well as soldiers, are all over social media.

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      Bibi’s an authoritarian with a strong desire to create a sort of ethnostate. He also needs the media to cover something other than his corruption and his removal of the judiciary’s independence from his regime.

      So, I expect this to be extremely ugly and to leave Palestine and her people worse off than ever before.

      A major issue is that there isn’t even a Palestinian Authority with which to negotiate anymore. And, Hamas is happy to let Palestine and Palestinians suffer to the last person so long as it means they get to shoot at just one more Israeli. It will go on until Israel wants to stop, which under the current government may be never.

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        There’s a lot to criticize Netanyahu for, but having a strong response to this is not one of those. When a bunch of terrorist go around killing civilians from house to house, taking hostages, and parading around the corpses of dead women and children that they killed you have to take a strong response and squash the terrorists.

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        until Israel wants to stop

        Excuse me? And how will Israel stop this exactly?

        hurr durr lift the blockade, remove the wall

        And you think Hamas will disband immediately? No, they will launch an all out attack again, because one of their stated holy goals is to murder as many Israelis as possible. The blockade keeps Israelis alive, and your armchair suggestions are stupid.

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          I punch a dog. The dog bites me. I put the dog in a cage. The dog scratches me. I beat the ever loving shit out of the dog. The dog bites me. I torture the dog and then go to the UN and cry that the dog bit me. The UN looks the other way as I attempt to beat the dog to death.

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          And how will Israel stop this exactly?

          Hire a necromancer, reanimate Rabin.

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      No, Israel has declared war. This is a BFD. A couple hundred dead, 1500 injured, Hamas is going door to door executing people. 2000 rockets fired into Israel. They’ve captured territory. They’ve captured the general of the Israeli defence force. This isn’t some border skirmish like we have heard about for a couple of decades, this was a very competent full scale attack.

      Israel doesn’t fuck around. Even if you don’t agree with them, they’re very militarily capable. Israel is about to turn Gaza into rubble in under a week. In the 6 day war, several Arab countries formed a coalition and attacked Israel, and got so thoroughly buttspanked they haven’t done it since. Within 6 days they conquered all the way to the current Jordanian border, the Golan Heights from Syria, and the entirety of Sinai, which they returned as a gesture. Gaza is about to get glassed.

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        So, we expect 10,000 Palestinians dead by the end of Israel’s retaliation? 100,000? More?

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          Genocide. Anticipate genocide as Israel uses this opportunity to justify eradicating the Palestinians. Never mind that everyone was warned that this would happen if they continued to bulldoze houses during Ramadan.

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            Israel is unlikely to do that, as the international uproar would likely cause them to lose American support

            The 10,000-100,000 dead is more likely, shameful as that itself is.

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              It is with and because of American support that Israel has been able to do what it’s done for the past decades.

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                I’m glad Israel has US support so that the attacks against it are minimally effective. Materiel support does not shape Israel’s governing policies

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          Just pulling numbers out of my ass, but I would not be surprised if the eventual total was in the tens of thousands, and also if it takes 20 years for the true total to be known

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          Gaza War in 2014. Left is Israeli casualties. Of course, Hamas started that one as well. Can’t imagine what will happen now.

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      I mean Israel already declared a state of war. Yeah this is not a small scale attack, and is actually the first time Hamas actually attacked Israel with foot soldiers.

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      Naw just more scratching and clawing from a desperate animal being slowly choked to death and driven into the sea.

      More bombing and annexing to be expected.

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          If it’s a genocide then they’re not doing a very good job considering that Gaza has an annual population growth of 3%.

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            It turns out when your sequestered into a small space, and concentrated together with the much stronger power controlling both the supply of food, and even your electricity, you sometimes have very little else to do.

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              We live in a shit situation so let’s make babies!!!

              Babies: I didn’t sign up for this shit.

              Goddamn humans are stupid.

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        Considering what Hamas has been doing today, Israel bombing them doesn’t sound so bad

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      This isn’t another squabble, this is another war.