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  • randon31415@lemmy.world
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    I am not sure they understand what total means. Hamas didn’t get those rockets from Israel - hense there must be an unmonitored way in from Egypt that Hamas controls.

    If there is, all food comes now from Hamas = Palestinians support Hamas more. If that gets cut, videos of mass starvation will eventually pull other Muslim countries into the conflict.

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      That’s what Israel wants. They want Iran to get pulled in and then further justify asking the West for more military aid and “support” to launch another “war” in it’s “defense”. Fucking terrorist regime in power unfortunately for Palestinians and Israelis.

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        Iran literally funds terrorists and advocates for the destruction of Israel

        Israel could invade and conquer Iran tomorrow and they have not.

        Iran’s military is as much a bungling shit-show as Iraq, Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc. There is no universe in which Israel needs US help to shatter Iran.

        Last time Iran even got close to enriching weapons-grade uranium, Israel launched airstrikes and flattened the plant, completely uncontested and without any reprisal from Iran, who knows they can’t win.

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          I doubt Israel could just invade and conquer Iran like that. Having superior equipment is one thing, but actually invading a place will inspire a population to fight against you more than almost anything else, and Iran is a mountainous country that has a population close to 10 times that of Israel. Actually occupying and holding a country like that for any length of time would be a nightmare even for a power like the United States (consider how Afghanistan ended), let alone Israel. They could maybe win a conventional engagement with their superior equipment, sure, and they could do tremendous damage to Iranian infrastructure with bombs or even nukes if they really wanted, but thats not the same as conquering a place.

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            They wouldn’t need to hold it. Iran is already primed for revolution. Just create the power vacuum.

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              Foreign invasion tends to cause people to rally around their government, or at least put internal conflicts on the backburner, historically, I’d imagine such a strategy would stand a serious chance of actually preventing any revolution that might otherwise take place.

              • SCB@lemmy.world
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                I don’t see the younger generation of Iran, which was brutally put down over the Hijab protests, coalescing behind their terrorist government.

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                  You really seem to know nothing about the geopolitics of the region. Iranians were put in that position when the regime was much weaker, and everyone united against the invader. Iranians are not likely to welcome anyone who tries to invade as an invasion inevitably massacres civilians, and foreigners killing Iranian civilians won’t be popular with you know, Iranian civilians.

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          “Israel could invade and conquer Iran tomorrow and they have not.”

          Why haven’t they then? Why hasn’t the US? Ever heard of millenium challenge 2002 for example? Invading Iran is not as easy as you seem to think. Iran has a geography that makes invasion very very difficult, strong natural defences. It would have otherwise been already invaded.

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            US doesn’t because it isn’t politically feasible, domestically or abroad

            Israel doesn’t because they’re trying to normalize relationships with neighboring countries, and have had a lot of success, which is why Iran funds Hamas.

            Iran’s army is hot garbage and their terrorist government is barely clinging to power as it is.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      Likely Israel is planning to gain control of the border with Egypt to cut off anything coming in that way, and either annexing that border strip outright or maintaining control of the border will be part of the peace terms.

      Irrespective of stopping the movement of new arms and missiles into Gaza, more hawkish israelis would probably salivate over being able to shut down all trade into Gaza every time they shoot off missiles, especially since every time they do it weakens confidence in being able to trade into Gaza, raising the costs for anyone trying to import anything into Gaza, and lowering the sell value of any goods made in Gaza.