The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz’s population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be’eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It’s one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

“Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul,” a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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    Every day for decades Israelis have been destroying Palestinian villages and killing or injuring innocent Palestinians.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/3/3/israeli-settler-attacks-against-palestinians-by-the-numbers

    How would you feel if Israelis burnt your toddler to death?

    https://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-palestinian-child-burnt-to-death-20150730-story.html

    Israel is the oppressor, they are the only side who has the power to end this situation and give the Palestinians back their freedom instead of murdering them in ghettos.

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      For peace you need two sides at the table, and both sides gave in to their fanatics (Israeli settlers and Hamas/Islamic Jihad).

      Both sides of the extremes have proven what they would do if they are in charge.

      Violence, terror… genocide.

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        Not saying you’re wrong, but Israel funded those fanatics so the Palestinian peace movement would lose steam. They wanted this to happen.

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          You are painfully correct, but it is a complicated situation stretching to the days of Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin and his assassination, and there’s history before that.

          If you want to brutally simplify it, you can point the finger at the current prime minister and the Israeli settlers and their supporters in the right wing.

          Just don’t forget to point your other finger at Hamas, abu-mazen (PLO leader, Holocaust denier), Yasser Arafat and Iran.

          It is, as I said previously, complicated.

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            Why would I point the finger at Hamas? It wouldn’t exist if Israel didn’t support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.

            I feel the same way about al queda, we created it so we don’t get to complain.

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              Hamas started in 1987 and always was a Muslim ISIS-like organization who’s goal was the destruction of Israel.

              Until the rule of Benjamin Netanyahu, no Israeli government supported Hamas. Quite the contrary, it fought against it. It is not like the US and Al-Queda (which was used as a proxy against the Soviets).

              wouldn’t exist if Israel didn’t support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.

              I’m not sure I understand your claim here.

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                Officially yes.

                Incorrect, netanyahu just didn’t hide it very well, bro there’s so many times where you have documented accounts of Israel letting Hamas attacks happen and then moving to stop them. It’s exactly the same were just father apart.

                Hamas could have and would have been exterminated in the 90s if Israel thought it benefitted them very simple, they needed a existential enemy so they made one.

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                  Why would Israel keep Hamas since the 90’s while the PLO and Islamic Jihad did the same thing only worse?

                  Where the hell are you bringing these conspiracy theories from?

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                    Hm. They actually seem to be kinda right. According to this article and this one, which source Israeli government officials from the time, they helped them since the 80’s and basically helped make Hamas a thing. They did it to make the Muslim Brotherhood -based organization which ended up being Hamas and the more secular PLO fight each other, to basically drive a wedge in the Palestinians.

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          A Zionist is a nationalist Jew. If you ever served in armed forces, then you were an American nationalist, or at least supported your country.

          Zionists do the same for Israel.

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          I hope you feel strongly enough about this to go join Hamas. It’s your chance to stand up to the Zionists, and heroically blow up a music festival full of innocent people. And suffer the consequences.

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              Veteran of the armed forces, explains a lot from colonizer boot thug. You’re used to policing and blowing up the brown people, so you know all about it. I actually grew up during a war, a civilian in an American instigated conflict, so I probably know a lot more than you about what it’s like to live during a war and bombing, you’re just good at dropping said bombs

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      Israel is the oppressor

      I don’t disagree with this line, but they are also the victim. The origins of the nationalist movement for a Jewish state came in light of Russian pogroms killing Jews – a Jewish scholar noted that the only way they could have peace, freedom, and respect seemed to be having a nation of their own.

      Israel has absolutely been the oppressor for a lot of the country’s history, but it takes some fucking gall to say Israel is the oppressor after Hamas killed and kidnapped civilians. Your logic in fact would suggest Israel has the moral high ground now. The Hamas attack has killed a ton of innocent people, including children.

      Tell me, does Hamas have the right to kill Israeli children because the Israeli government killed Palestinian children? If so, does Israel have the right if we reverse the situation?

      What the Israeli government has done to Palestinians is a war crime and an atrocity. That does not mean Israel is the villain and Hamas is the good guy. The opposite isn’t true either. You’re grossly simplifying the conflict and not trying to understand its roots.