• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Lol, you need time to know long term effects, there still hasn’t been enough of that yet.

    How long after a pandemic starts should a vaccine be released? Give me a number please.

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      1 year ago

      For a pandemic with a really high survival rate? Like a 99% survival rate?

      5-10 years makes sense to me

      If the survival rate was different, my answers here would be different

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        1 year ago

        So death is the only metric? Long COVID isn’t a metric? Just missing two weeks of work isn’t a metric? Because we don’t get flu vaccines because we’re worried about dying from the flu, we get them because we want to avoid getting the flu and avoid the worst symptoms if we do. And that’s even true of other vaccines. The polio vaccine wasn’t about stopping death, it was about stopping the crippling effects of polio. Sort of similar to the crippling effects of COVID.

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          1 year ago

          The worst symptoms are death. I see your point about extending the metrics, and maybe I should consider more than just dying, but I think it’s a strong factor in why this whole thing seems over blown in the way mandates and restrictions came.

          For polio, it was about stopping death, paralysis is a death sentence in most places in the world.

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      1 year ago

      Especially if we’re going to use a tech in a vaccine that we’ve never used on large amounts of people before

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          1 year ago

          Lol you mean the one they took off of the shelves because of blood clots? From a lack of testing?

          I said “especially with new tech”. Still need to test the waters with the old one clearly.

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            1 year ago

            You mean the handful of blood clots vs. the millions successfully vaccinated?

            Please name a vaccine with zero side effects.

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                1 year ago

                You know you have to get COVID to have natural immunity, right? So what should we do, have COVID parties like parents used to have chicken pox parties for their kids?

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                  1 year ago

                  You’re going to get covid. Vaccine or not.

                  Get the vaccine if you’re elderly or have underlying risks, otherwise doing 3 shots a year to stay up to date doesn’t look very beneficial anymore.

                  We didn’t know how ineffective the vaccine was in the beginning, but our leaders still said things like “This will protect you. Fully. Everyone needs to have it”. I’ll provide links if you didn’t see any of that going on.

                  It was a lot more political than it was scientific, which is a huge red flag.

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                  1 year ago

                  The only right thing to do was to do nothing. All the attacks on freedom we suffered through were evil