• Peaty
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    1 year ago

    No I didn’t miss it. These words mean things already. Terrorism is something non-state entities engage in. When nations do it they are called acts of war.

    If a bunch of American burn down a bar in Canada that would be terrorism. If the US army did the same thing it would be a legal justification for Canada to declare war. That’s because militaries are acting on behalf of the country while random citizens are not.

    There’s no reason for this to change unless you hold to the idea that somehow terrorism is worse than acts of war or war crimes which is pretty childish and ignorant.

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      1 year ago

      Okay so you’re arguing pedantics. Let’s do it.

      Can you find any official global sources that define terrorism vs an act of war?

      I couldn’t but I only checked for a short while.

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        What does arguing pedantics mean? Note pedantics isn’t a word.

        Yes the UN codes regarding war crimes.

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          Arguing pedantics = conversational way of saying that you are being pedantic.

          Define terrorism not war crimes, obviously. Nobody was arguing for the definition of war crimes, and just because something isn’t a formal war crime, doesn’t mean it’s not something else (which would possibly include but not limit to only terrorism)

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          You know what they meant.

          You are still being pedantic arguing about semantics.

          If you have to obscure your animus behind a veil of linguistics then you don’t actually have one.

          Is that a big enough vocab for you

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        Except they are. Terrorists are non-state organizations.

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          A terrorist is someone who uses terror to enact change.

          By all rights we were terrorists when we went into iraq and Afghanistan.

          We went in and used fear and terror of us reaction to change things

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            1 year ago

            No we were an invading army

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              Okay, well since you like being pedantic and hiding behind semantics here is the Oxford definition.

              You can spend all day yelling at them.

              I have called you out on your what i will assume is misinformation instead of disinformation.

              It’s your move, do you argue against the factual definition?

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                1 year ago

                First you didn’t not include a definition. Second, dictionaries aren’t authoritative sources but rather descriptive ones. If you need that explained to you then you are ill equipped for any academic discussion.

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                  You are right I did forget here you go.

                  Dictionary
                  Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
                  ter·ror·ist
                  noun
                  a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
                  “four commercial aircraft were hijacked by terrorists”
                  Similar:
                  bomber
                  arsonist
                  incendiary
                  gunman
                  assassin
                  desperado
                  hijacker
                  revolutionary
                  radical
                  guerrilla
                  urban guerrilla
                  subversive
                  anarchist
                  freedom fighter
                  insurrectionist
                  insurrectionary
                  adjective
                  unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
                  “a terrorist organization”

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                    You’ll note nowhere on that list of synonyms are terms used for militaries. That’s not by accident. It’s because national militaries aren’t terrorist groups.

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                  Correct. There is no authority in language except French. So your pedantic arguments are also flawed. Your own argument works against you

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                    There is also ones for other languages.

                    Regardless the point is a dictionary does not define words but rather describes how they are used. Even if it covered national militaries, which it does not, it wouldn’t support your claim. In fact it would be an “appeal to authority”