• Varyk
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    Ukraine is in no way being forgotten, they were just sent another 200 billion after the Gaza war started.

    That said, can someone ELI5 the skeleton conflict?

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        The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict[f] is an ethnic and territorial conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the disputed region of Nagorno-Karabakh, inhabited mostly by ethnic Armenians until 2023, and seven surrounding districts, inhabited mostly by Azerbaijanis until their expulsion during the 1990s. The Nagorno-Karabakh region has been entirely claimed by and partially controlled by the breakaway Republic of Artsakh, but is recognized internationally as part of Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan gradually re-established control over Nagorno-Karabakh region and the seven surrounding districts since 2020.

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          2021–present

          Twelve Azerbaijani civilians and two soldiers were killed in 2021, by landmine explosions. Seventeen Armenian and ten Azerbaijani soldiers were also killed in shoot-outs in the border area, while 38 Armenian soldiers were captured. Twenty-eight of the captured Armenian soldiers were subsequently released.

          In 2022, three Armenian soldiers were killed and 14 wounded in an attack by Azerbaijani drones in Nagorno-Karabakh on 25 March.

          The fatalities of the current war, is how i imagined wars when i was younger. Soldiers in combat with other soldiers. Civilian casualties “only” through landmines.

          No raiding, raping, torturing & murdering of civilians as a sport of some sort

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        Anyone else find it hilarious that wiki uses the word “Belligerents” to label the list of warring nations?

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            Calling someone belligerent is general done as an insult. So yes in typical Wiki fashion they are technically using the word correctly. But if read with connotation then it reads more like “here’s the list of assholes.”

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              That is what the word is for. It is an insult because you are calling someone confrontational

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              Okay I don’t agree because well. Beligerants basically means aggressive person/nation/etc. But if we don’t use beligerant what would you use instead?

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                I think you misunderstand. I’m not saying the usage is wrong. I’m saying if you read the page in the same way people casually speak then it’s funny

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                  I think you misunderstand. The way Wikipedia uses the word is the original usage, so only funny if you don’t know about it. Applying it to bar fights and such is the tongue-in-cheek usage.

                  From Latin belligerans (“waging war”), present active participle of belligerō (“I wage war”), from belliger (“waging war, warlike”), from bellum (“war”) + -ger (from gerō (“I lead, wage, carry on”)).

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                    I’m not saying the usage is wrong.

                    But thank you for googling something I already looked up before posting my original comment. I genuinely don’t understand why people on this platform think they have authority on how language can be used and interpreted. It’s exhausting

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          Not every conflict is between nations and the infobox has to work across different conflicts. Belligerents is probably the best option to label the sides of a conflict

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        Thanks. I actually didn’t know it was still going on. What’s the ELI? 5. On the reduced casualty rates? Is it over?

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          An Azeirbayan military leader occupies ethnic Armenian territory at the end of WWI. Britain gives it the ok. Azeirbayan says they’re declaring it part of their country. The USSR gives it the ok, since Armenia also has an Azerbaijani enclave within their territory. The USSR fucking dies.

          Azeirbayan and Armenia start harassing each other for those territories. Since the Armenian enclave (Karabakh) doesn’t want to be ethnically cleansed, they end up declaring independence. There’s an increasingly hotter cold war between Armenia and Azeirbayan, with Russia warning them both not to attack each other. Russia invades Ukraine, gets stuck in an unending fucking stupid conflict.

          Azeirbayan decides it’s a good moment to retake control of Karabakh, and attacks them. Neither Armenia nor Karabakh can stop Azeirbayan. Karabakh surrenders. Azeirbayan “invites” ethnic Armenians in Karabakh to leave their home. Karabakh gets ethnically cleansed.

          Looks like there’s a bad ending to the story, but an ending nonetheless.

          Azeirbayan now wants to connect their territory to their ethnic enclave in Armenia, therefore threatening military action <- We’re currently here.

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          No Azerbaijan and Armenia are both in Russian wannabe Nato and Russia now supports Azerbaijans ethnic cleansing in the region, there are multiple reports on what we’d call genocide.

          I mean thats what you get by staying with Russia…